Non CDL Straight Truck, Need a Logbook, Med. Card?

**SlickLizard** · 07.28.2011

As a retired Greyhound bus driver (20 years), I find myself with a new part time courier position driving a non-cdl 26' straight truck. Tomorrow, I'm assigned to run to Knoxville (from B'ham), pick up a load and back to B'ham. Now, even though I have a class B cdl, but I'm driving a non-cdl truck, am I required to have a medical card? Am I required to have a log book? I know that there are one or two weigh stations between Chattanooga and Knoxville, and I'm wondering about the med card and log book requirements. Thanks in advance.

**Roadmedic** · 07.28.2011

All commercial motor vehicles require the log book, medical card and hours of service.

The definition of a cmv is simply any vehicle used commercially with a gvwr of 10,001 lbs.

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regul...aspx?reg=383.5

**SlickLizard** · 07.28.2011

Originally Posted by Roadmedic

All commercial motor vehicles require the log book, medical card and hours of service.

The definition of a cmv is simply any vehicle used commercially with a gvwr of 10,001 lbs.

Thanks, Road, but according to the link you sent, A cmv is a vehicle with a gvwr of 26,001 or more. Less than 26,001 would make it a non-cmv or a non-cdl, right?

**Roadmedic** · 07.28.2011

Must have sent the wrong link.

Try this one.

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regul...aspx?reg=390.5

**SlickLizard** · 07.28.2011

So why is one different from the other? The first says a cvr is a vehicle with a gvwr of 25,001 or more, the second says 10,001 or more. Which one is right? I always thought it was 25,001.

Thanks, Road, I'll see what I can find out.

**Roadmedic** · 07.28.2011

Originally Posted by SlickLizard

So why is one different from the other? The first says a cvr is a vehicle with a gvwr of 25,001 or more, the second says 10,001 or more. Which one is right? I always thought it was 25,001.

Thanks, Road, I'll see what I can find out.

The previous was the definition of the cmv and the cdl requirement.

The second is the definition of the cmv and the driver requirements.

It is what makes the entire thing interesting.

**PackRatTDI** · 07.28.2011

My cousin had to get a CDL with a P endorsement to drive a 15 passenger van for a retirement center because it was considered a "bus" even though it has less than 16 seats.

**turnanburn** · 07.28.2011

My State of Vermont reg booklet states that interstate is over 10,00 and intrastate is over 26,00. Both for "transporting property or passengers in commerce" That's why you see the MC #s on the ford vans. I think some have the idea that if it's "under" 26,000 its not commercial. Nothing in this business is that easy!

**TruckerGsch** · 07.28.2011

It comes to 235 miles as the crow flies so you need a log.

**dieselbear** · 07.28.2011

Originally Posted by PackRatTDI

My cousin had to get a CDL with a P endorsement to drive a 15 passenger van for a retirement center because it was considered a "bus" even though it has less than 16 seats.

15 + the driver = 16, CDL required with P endorsement.