Job Hopping Myths

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by dancnoone, Oct 16, 2011.

  1. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    Work ethic is a very serious issue, in any industry. But, as an industry we have allowed companies to control the tone of this debate/issue for too long.

    I know without a doubt, there are drivers everywhere who have driven for one company all their life. And I have a lot of respect for ANY person who has been with one company for more than 10 years. But.......

    When did it become a "fact" that every driver has to eat ####, whether he/she likes it or not?

    I continuously see/hear comments about "job hopping", from company and driver alike. All of it pointing out the negative aspect of "hopping".

    How about some truth....for once.

    Trucking is a service industry. Companies often blame poor service, on it's drivers.

    As a driver, I provide a service to the trucking company. And I am proud of my ability and record. I want to provide a service that makes everyone happy with my level of performance. I can not do this if ONE person in the chain, is dishonest with me.

    Moving on......

    Discounting any personal reasons for leaving a company. Family issues, medical, etc, etc.

    While rate of pay will lure a driver to another company (a topic for another post). The only thing that will make a driver leave a company, is dishonesty.

    Dishonesty is a very broad word. It can cover anything from pay to time at home. Deception through omission is dishonesty. We've all been victims of this treatment at some time.

    Why would we as experienced drivers tolerate anyone who is dishonest? Why would we as professionals, expect anyone else to tolerate dishonesty?

    As experienced drivers, especially those of us who have driven for 10 plus year, we are VERY aware that many companies flat out LIE to attract new drivers. Yet, I continue to see these same drivers berate the new guys for having 4 jobs over a 2 year period.

    This is NOT good. Many of us have bought into the company propaganda machine. We help bad companies keep GOOD drivers. And, at some point that good driver will fall through the cracks. Becoming a driver who will never work in the industry again. Due to violations or accidents. Often pushed upon the driver, by the company, through dispatch.

    We must continue to support/guide good drivers to good companies. Insuring the success of both. The sooner we can get a good driver away from a bad company, the sooner the bad company can shut the doors....forever.

    As experienced drivers, I see many of us within this forum and others trying very hard to steer a new guy away from a BAD company. And failing more times than not. But why label the guy/gal as a job hopper, once they realize they have made a very bad mistake?

    As experienced drivers with "clean" driving records. We KNOW we can have a new job tomorrow. And it has NOTHING to do with being a long time "team player".

    As a new driver, you should take more time to question the input you get within this forum. Research, research, and research some more. Sure there are those of us who literally hate some companies. But there is generally good reason. MAKE SURE there is validity to this reason. Has it happened to others? If so, that company may not be a good choice for you.

    New guys, accepting ANY job out of desperation, can only lead to disappointment in your future.
     
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  3. Y2K

    Y2K Road Train Member

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    I'm on my 3rd job in 1 year as a driver,4 months at the first one,8 months at the second and 1 week now on #3 which I have high hopes for as being the one I can stay with.
    I gave two weeks notice at the first 2 leaving on good terms for a better gig both times,you can't really fault a guy for hop'n to a better job if an opportunity comes along IMHO.
    A lot of guys where I'm at now have been there 15-20 or even 30+ years so I think I may have found a home,I managed to get off the road and into a decent paying daycab gig which was my goal from the day I graduated from driving school.
     
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  4. walstib

    walstib Darkstar

    I'd like to add something...Since it seems many companies, whether true or not, will put something unappealing to other companies on your DAC when you leave them, you need to be proactive and forward thinking...If you do plan on leaving a company, have the next one lined up before you leave and maybe have them look at your DAC...Seems we read all the time someone leaves a company, gets their DAC trashed, again, whether it's true or not, and then can't find another job because of that information...Just a thought...
     
  5. Kittyfoot

    Kittyfoot Crusty Ancient

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    True, but if honesty from management is your sole criteria you will soon have nowhere to go.

    Let's understand that most management these days has little or no knowlege of the industry they're in. They operate on the template they learned in "business school" and that's it.

    Employees (drivers) are not people; they are "resources" that are readily expendable. We are lines on the ledger just like the trucks and trailers, no more. The office "infrastructure" (computers, programs and their comfy swivel chairs) counts way more than we do.

    Dispatch's only concern is getting the maximum amount of loads covered period. Once you are under that trailer and out of the yard it's your problem, not theirs.
     
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  6. Onetruckpony

    Onetruckpony Medium Load Member

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    Just a few days ago, after a last minute meeting my schedule was changed to one that REALLY sux and started the next morning.
    I was informed that this company considers Drivers "D list" players and our input was not desired nor would it be considered.
    One of the funniest things I have ever seen was the look on the plant managers face when I told him he needed to deliver my run in the trunk of his BMW because this "d list" player had just taken his name off the list.
    Had a better job the very next morning.
    D list my ###!
     
  7. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    Not always true. There are some that actually TRY. And I have respect for those.

    Case in point would be my current job. I hear drivers complain about miles, not often. But it happens. It is very rare that I hear a complaint about management or dispatch.

    I actually had a sit down this spring, after cleaning my truck out. Got EVERY issue resolved in that meeting.

    It remains resolved to this day.

    I still have to put up with the every day BS of trucking, that I can tolerate. But my company HAS tried, very effectively, to insure I am happy with my current position.

    Now this may not hold true with every driver here, I'm just one of 13,000+. But the others are not me.

    And my wife will be the first to tell you, I am the biggest ###hole she has ever met. When I've had enough.

    Even my kids refuse to have dinner with me, in a restaurant. One never knows when the food will be bad, or a waitress will provide bad service. :biggrin_2559:
     
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  8. THBatMan8

    THBatMan8 Road Train Member

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    Job hoping does look horrible on your resume. Why? If I'm a manager and I see you've held 10 jobs in a year (for example), that tells me you're not a committed employee. Why should I waste my time hiring you when you're just going to quit in 2 months when something 'better' comes along?
     
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  9. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    If I come into your place for a job. You can bet I'm committed to MY family. Not your business.

    There are 168 hours in a week. I AGREED to give you 70 of them for a price...NO MORE.

    I expect decent pay. And my pay requirements are NOT as high as most.
    To be treated with the same respect you DEMAND.
    And honesty.

    If you deceive me or flat out lie to me, you're no different from the 100's of other bottom feeders out here. And shouldn't expect me to give you the time of day.

    If you want someone committed to your business. Offer them 49% of it.
     
  10. jvar4001

    jvar4001 Medium Load Member

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    BLACKBALLED BY USIS (DAC)

    i guess one of the reasons why OOIDA has filed a class action suit against USIS Commercial Services Inc., d.b.a. DAC Services reporting of inaccurate statements

    USIS purchases or otherwise acquires, without the permission of professional truck drivers, statements about them, including statements about their work records, and then sells "consumer reports" .OOIDA President Jim Johnston notes the collaboration that has taken place since the mid-1990s between DAC and motor carriers to establish a reporting system of driver work histories that has the potential to discourage and eliminate truck drivers who may be excellent, safe members of the industry, but who may have resisted pressure from the motor carrier to bend the safety laws.

    having experienced great difficulty in finding acceptable employment or lease contracts in the industry. "It's time for this unjust system of blackballing and intimidation to come to an end

    so as you see no job , cant pay debts , government cant collect taxes (i wonder what Obama would thing about this ) , he is struggling on us to get back to work and paid taxes ASAP (you know in order or the economy gets back to normal ) but there is a company that is screwing drivers by blackballing them.


    http://www.landlinemag.com/Special_Reports/2004/July04/07-08-04 DAC.htm
     
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  11. diesel_weasel

    diesel_weasel Medium Load Member

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    Treat me right and you wont have a thing to worry about
     
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