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Old 07.02.2007
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Arrow Gels vs. Sprays
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As for pepper sprays stay away from that cheep walmart stuff. I have sprayed that stuff on food like a seasoning to prove its not effective. If you can get a cop to order the real thing that they use make sure you scrape the can up to cover where it says 'for law enforcement use only' on the can. If it don't say this its not the same. If you are found with one that says that you WILL go to jail. Also the 'gel'/'foam' sprays are not as good because the vapors being drawn into the lungs is what dose most of the damage. The thick sprays have less vapors. Also if the attacker is shielding his eyes when you spray it will take some time for it to run down into their eyes/face. I worked in security for a while and took it upon myself to get qualified to carry everything I could. I did a lot of reading and have used most of the sprays out there. I have tested every one I could get in my hands on myself to build a tolerance to it and see first hand what was best. If your going to go this route look into the MK4 10% OC Police Size, or if you want to stay legal go to a sporting goods store and buy a can of Alaskan Magnum bear spray. If it will stop a bear it will stop any one .
Good suggestions. I would, however, mention that you are more likely to be using the spray in an enclosed area, therefore you might want to rethink the "spray vs. gel" argument you made above. A spray is as likely to disable you as it is your attacker if you're in a confined space (i.e. your truck, in-between trailers, etc.). Also, sprays have a shorter "range" or length of spray vs. gels.
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Good suggestions. I would, however, mention that you are more likely to be using the spray in an enclosed area, therefore you might want to rethink the "spray vs. gel" argument you made above. A spray is as likely to disable you as it is your attacker if you're in a confined space (i.e. your truck, in-between trailers, etc.). Also, sprays have a shorter "range" or length of spray vs. gels.
You bring up a good point. If you are in you truck spraying someone in your truck you are going to get hit hard too. Out side shouldn't be that big of a deal. In any situation you are going to get a little on you. Its just the nature of the beast. My personal problem with the Gels and Foam is they don't spread over the attacker very well. What I mean is that of you spray and only get him in the chest with the foam then as long as he doesn't touch it its not going to stop him. It doesn't seep threw cloths well. But the liquid will seep right in and at least start burning his chest and some over spray will have gotten him in the face. I'm not sure on spray distance as I never really focused on that. I can tell you a good can in a Police size should give you at least an accurate 10' stream. If I remember right the MK4 will get you more like 14'. What ever you get make sure to test fire it so you know its effective range.

Any way you go the best thing you can do after you slow someone down is you get away. Run, drive, what ever it takes. Remember there is nothing in your trailer worth sticking around and dieing for.
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I have a flare pistol(safety device) fires a12Ga flare.... wouldn't want to fire it at someone in the cab though!
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I take my dog with me.If someone is crazy enough to try and get in,go luck getting out!
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I take my dog with me.If someone is crazy enough to try and get in,go luck getting out!
That's something not mentioned yet. A dog (just about any breed you like) is probably the best protection for your truck that you can have. Even a small, yippy, shaky Chihuaha is a good deterrent for would-be thieves.

A dog isn't always practical, of course, which is why we discuss other alternatives.
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Star Death, and the avoidance thereof
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Remember there is nothing in your trailer worth sticking around and dieing for.
The best statement in this thread so far.
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Libertarian500,
where can i find this new Federal reg that
bans firearms in CMV? I'am asking because
i'am a in state fuel hauler and carry every
night that i work so any info would be very
helpfull,Thanks
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"Even a small, yippy, shaky Chihuaha"

OH yea them little devels do bite. I have one who is affraid of his own shadow. But ouch to the guy messing with him or my stuff!!!!
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I have a large stick...and a can of hairspray. haha
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It's called "common sense"
One response out of all the rest deserves follow-up. All the clubs, knives, sprays and pure brute strength will be useless against the fool out there with a gun. The best advice is to stay out of those areas where it is most likely you will have problems with your personal safety.

I've delivered in the really dangerous parts of several major cities, and I always followed one rule: NEVER AT NIGHT!!! Truck stops are generally safer than roadside ramps and rest areas.
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