Changing driver HOS pattern.

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Palazon, Dec 18, 2013.

  1. Palazon

    Palazon Road Train Member

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    My previous pattern was to bust hump and run out of hours in 6-7 days forcing a reset. On my DM's suggestion, I'm attempting the working pattern of keeping my daily hours at 8.75 or less, so that I'm never forced into taking a reset. It's working mathematically, but my body is having a tough time adjusting. It still wants to climb in bed as soon as I stop and still wants to wake up at 0300..

    Has anyone else switched over their running style and had this problem? All my previous jobs planned on a "run 'im till he drops" pattern.:biggrin_2556: Maybe I need to fill the extra time with exercise.
     
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  3. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    Under current HOS, resetting allows you to work 70 hours/week vs 62.5 on recap (used to be 80+). Most dispatches do not seem to grasp this concept because they seem to think resetting means "you're not managing your hours." Perhaps they just prefer to have drivers available at any time -- but resetting is in your best interest if you're maxing out HOS
     
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  4. Richter

    Richter Road Train Member

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    I just haul donkey until im out of hours and then take a 34 wherever i am. If im not supper busy i might just recaping, depending on the week. In the last 7 days i have driver 3200 miles and i still have 14 hours tomorrow.
     
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  5. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Kind of hard to do that with the new rules on the 34 wherever you are when limited to one a week.
     
  6. Dr_Fandango44

    Dr_Fandango44 Road Train Member

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    You didn't say whether you run paper or E'logs. E'logs will give you the exact date of the next eligibility of the reset and you will find its less than 6-7 days. between each potential eligibility. The reason is that the 168 hrs aka 7day reset starts from the beginning of the last 34 hr restart. so when you start your fresh "on duty" stint, you've already into it for 34 hrs,
    So bear that in mind. With paper logs you just have to figure it out long hand.
    It's going to take some adjusting to new ways of driving. I even have problems when I'm home. My body still thinks I'm driving the truck. In the end you will adjust so be patient.
    In addition, if you don't let the reset kick in, just be on duty for 8.75 hrs a day and it will work out. Easier said than done though.
     
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  7. UTurn1

    UTurn1 Heavy Load Member

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    I try to run the 8.75 method. Sometimes I have to run balls out and others I end up sitting for live loads. I very seldom do a reset.
     
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  8. Marshillman

    Marshillman Bobtail Member

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    No matter how hard I try it always seems like I hit my 11 or 14 every single day. Like today, picked up load and figured I'd do drop 1 and take my 10 off and be lazy today. Nooooopppee. ... I pulled into my parking spot with 2 min left on my 14. Maybe tomorrow.
     
  9. Palazon

    Palazon Road Train Member

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    To answer some of the questions: No not Elog but I use DDL so it does the math (168 hrs, etc).

    Ritcher, that's how I normally run, but the boss doesn't like me resetting on the road. She want's me to reset at home to make it home time as well and 2 weeks out is easier to plan. My 1st job was regional, so I always made it home for restarts. Last one would have you take a 34 on the road and then interrupt it and wonder why your hours were low (GTI).
     
  10. cabwrecker

    cabwrecker The clutch wrecker

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    One of the great things about trucking, before these new HOS changes was that you COULD burn 70 in 5-6 days, then reset it. During your 34 it was a nice two days off, where I could watch my sattelite TV and catch up on homework. But no, now you've gotta keep it at 8.5 which meant that my company wasn't likely to give me, a solo driver WHO COULD ACTUALLY THROW FREIGHT a good long run in 11 hour non stop sittings. Before the HOS changes it wasn't irregular for me to pick up a drop/hook terminal to terminal with 2,000+ miles. After the HOS changes I was lucky to see 650-1,000 in one sitting.

    ....Who thinks these rule changes honestly saved/are saving any lives?

    DOT has its head so far up its ### it can taste what it's having for dinner next week.
     
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  11. Palazon

    Palazon Road Train Member

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    I don't see how you're losing 7.5 hrs a week on rollover HOS unless you think the 30 min break counts as to total working hours (which it doesn't). Example: Start at 0600, drive 4 hrs, take lunch (30 min), drive 4 more hrs=8 hrs on logbook and 8.5 hrs linear time. Add .75 for pre trip, post trip and fuel stop, subtract delivery or pick up from drive time and you maintain 8.75/daily. I only log 15 min at shipper/receiver, the rest being bunk time. Yes this can limit your miles before you say it..

    Please understand that I'm not busting you chops. I'm confused on your point of view there. What I was saying in original post was that I'm having difficulties adjusting to the "lite" work days after busting my rear end for 6 years.:biggrin_25523:
     
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