Team logging help

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Old Man, Dec 16, 2014.

  1. Old Man

    Old Man Road Train Member

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    Had a friend call me and ask how to use their hours so the don't have to do a reset every week. They are a new team on e-logs and I think their pushing it to hard and burning up their hours. I suggested not running 24 hours a day and stretch out their 70, but what do I know, never ran team nor e-logs.

    Teams tell me how you do it to get the most out of your hours and not wasting time doing resets.
     
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  3. MsJamie

    MsJamie Road Train Member

    First of all, get rid of the idea that taking a reset is somehow "wasting" time. It isn't. In fact, taking a reset makes MORE hours available to you each week than running on recap.

    For the sake of argument, we'll say that each driver uses 30 minutes a day doing their pretrip, fueling, and other incidental work related tasks that need to be logged on duty.

    If a team runs hard, maxing their 11 hours of drive time each shift for 6 days, then take the 7th day off, they'll have 66 hours of drive time in the 7 day period. They will each have used 69 of their 70 hours.

    If they run recaps, evenly spaced, they have 8:15 of drive available each day. So, after 7 days, they will have driven 57:45. They will have lost over 8 hours of drive time by NOT taking a reset!

    BTW, the numbers work the same for solo drivers...
     
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  4. DustyRoad

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    In the real world teams ave 5k per week ... something is wrong if they are running out of hrs.
     
  5. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    ...and if driver #1 starts his reset during driver #2's shift, and driver #2 completes his reset during driver #1's shift, the truck won't really have to be "parked" for very long.
     
  6. miss elvee

    miss elvee Heavy Load Member

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    Yep.
    Run hard each day. 11 hr drive plus pre and post trip and fuel = @12 hours a day. Overlap pre/post and fuel and you can keep the truck running 22 hours a day. (Minus the 1/2 hour mandatory break)

    12 hours a day times 5 full days plus a 6th day at 10 hours and you are out of hours. So driver one does his ten hours and gets in the sleeper. Driver two does ten hours and they sit for a full 24 hour day.
    Driver one is reset. Driver two will be reset after driver one's shift.

    It's called a rolling reset. Only teams do this.

    It is very rare that this gives you any benefit. The hours have to work out just right for both drivers. The only benefit to this is you can sit for only 24 hrs and then keep rolling on a fresh 70.

    You could not do this until the repealed the reset law because of the 1am to 5am stipulation. It will increase a team's productivity by about 15%.

    Hope that helps.
    Elvee
     
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  7. Old Man

    Old Man Road Train Member

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    I believe they need to plan from the start, not just run until they run out of hours, let them plan a rolling restart before they need it. Question, do both drivers need to show a pre trip or Justine per calander day?
     
  8. dca

    dca Road Train Member

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    Yes both do pre and post trips.. this all sounds great until a plan is foiled waiting at a dock or for repairs etc .. they need to adjust acordingly as it comes
     
  9. Giggles the Original

    Giggles the Original Road Train Member

    they should take that reset so they dont get burned out. trust me. we used it to do laundry, clean the truck., SNUGGLE....but then again we ran hard too...5000 mi a week for us was a slow week.

    we did a rolling restart tho...
     
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  10. miss elvee

    miss elvee Heavy Load Member

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    Yup. We always take our 24 in a hotel. Unlimited hot water, quiet bed, laundry and decent food. Then we'll catch a movie, go to the grocery... whatever.

    Ran 6700 last week. Take the dang day. :)
     
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  11. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    I would experiment with limiting the total hours for each teammate to 10 hours per day 7 days a week. That 8th day will be the day off, rotating forward each week like this week is Monday off next week is Tuesday off for 24 hours. Alternate which driver will begin the new week and the other driver finishes a '34' rolling as the other driver picks up 10 hours daily on recaps.
     
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