Meritor Tire Inflation System on Wabash trailers

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  1. HardlyWorkingNeverHome

    HardlyWorkingNeverHome Heavy Load Member

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    The Meritor Tire Inflation System on new Wabash trailers have been leaving the factory in Indiana with the system being off. As an old school driver if you haven't learned anything about this newer technology, it may be time to. More of the bigger and even mid sized fleets are spec'ing some sort of tire inflation system for their fleet of trailers. The price has come down, the fuel economy benefit is measurable, and tires that can be patched will be saved.

    Well, that last part depends on the driver. Most drivers I've spoken with don't completely understand how the system works. As a driver you don't need to know the mechanics but you do need to know the basics. One of the first things to check as part of your pretrip on a trailer equipped with an auto inflate system is to verify that the system is on. On a Wabash equipped with
    the Meritor Tire Inflation System, you need to pop your head under the trailer from the passenger side in front of the tandems. There is a box attached to the buggy frame that has air lines running through it. This box is where your company can dial in the air pressure they want to run in the tires. On the left of the box above the air line coming in is a valve every driver should be aware of. This valve is an emergency shut off. When the valve is off, the trailer behaves like a trailer that has no auto inflation system. Basically you lose the benefit of system. If the system is off and you are unaware of this valve, you would assume the tires are correctly inflated because the warning light on the nose of the trailer would be off. Unfortunately you would be wrong. The light becomes meaningless when the system is off. When the shut off valve is off, air can't cross the sensor in the box, so the box won't be able to turn the light on if a tire is under inflated. The on position is to have the valve in the same position as the line. When you turn the valve 90 degrees (perpendicular) it's off.

    Once you know that the system is indeed on, you want to thump the tires before releasing the trailer brakes. You want to catch any under inflated tires BEFORE the system begins to air up any tires. If you catch any tires under inflated at this point, one of two things has happened. You have a punctured tire, or one of the lines attached to the tire has come loose. My experience is the line that goes to all inside tires is usually the one that comes loose for some reason.

    If the tires look ok, and thumping them gave you the impression they are aired up, it's time to go to the next step. While parked on flat level ground, turn the key to the run position (or let the engine run. The main thing is to have full air in the tractor before releasing the trailer brakes), and release only the trailer brakes. This airs up the system, and gives power to the sensors. If any tire is under inflated, the light will come on. The system tops off tires slowly so you don't lose too much air from the braking system. When all tires reach the predetermined inflation setting the light will go out.

    This system is not designed to keep up with a punctured tire. If you have a nail in a tire, the light may or may not go out. If a tire has a nail it might keep it around 60psi going down the road. This is usually enough to go a short distance and get the tire patched, saving a tire that might otherwise have been lost to being run flat!


     
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  3. Studebaker Hawk

    Studebaker Hawk Road Train Member

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    Your explanation is excellent. Mostly because it enumerates the several pitfalls of the system. Asking a driver to be this knowledgeable about a system like this is just like asking him to troubleshoot several other systems on a tractor trailer. None of it is going to happen in the real world. The only thing he is supposed to do is see that the tires are properly inflated. Unfortunately, there is no way to check the inflation on an individual tire unless you disassemble the system, which if I am head of maintenance, I don't want a driver to do.
    The original reason for the on board inflation systems was because
    1. The drivers weren't even thumping the tires on a pretrip
    2. The maintenance dept/system user of the trailer either wasn't checking tire pressures or didn't have a systematic timely method for doing so.

    So, on board systems become a "sales point" and another $1000 option gets put on a trailer that is ineffective because of the lack of training/maintenance in the real world. But worse, because the decals are there, it gives a false sense of security to drivers, maintenance and the inspectors at the scales

    We haul new trailers with this option all the time, and we also haul older trailers with this option. The older trailers (5-10 years old) have in the vast majority of cases had the system disabled, because it wasn't being used or maintained properly, and simply didn't work. Ask any tire repair joint how they like dealing with the things...
     
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  4. Ezrider_48501

    Ezrider_48501 Road Train Member

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    iv got a air inflation system on one of my trailers. it will keep up with a decent size puncture. I haven't had one yet that the system couldn't keep aired up rolling down the road. a real slow leak sometimes the sensor wont pick it up until air has been cut off and the tire has had some time to leak down a bit and then the light will flash for a bit while it is airing up and then shut off.

    a couple easy ways to identify witch tire is leaking when you have a real slow leak. spray bottle of soapy water and spray the tires and look for bubbles. or let the truck sit over night with the air cut to the trailer and then gauge the tires and see witch one is lower than the others. (this is the method i normally use) and if the leak is slow enough that you have to use a gauge rather than a thumper to figure out witch tire is leaking i will just wait till its convenient to patch the tire.

    I haven't had any issues with the air lines or hub lines leaking. but like anything it will eventually need maintenance. I have had a tire shop break off one of the air line fittings putting the rim back on the hub.

    to me the benefits outweigh the negatives and feel it was money well spent on the inflation system. i just wish i could have it on my tractor as well. I have had the system on my trailer for probably approx 2 years
     
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  5. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    We had them on almost all the trailers when I was with Landstar. More than once I picked up a trailer with not only a flat, but having the bead broke and not even close to the rim. First time I called maintainance and the guy told me to go ahead and pull the trailer- around 25mph for a couple miles- and it should set the bead. Sure enough after two miles it was set and fully inflated. Took it to a shop to get a screw taken out and tire repaired but sure was better than waiting for a service truck at 3am.
     
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  6. JSharkey

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    Please refer to the following - http://psi-atis.com/Documents/D01.pdf



    I work for the design and manufacturing company that makes the MTIS product, Pressure Systems International based in San Antonio, TX (www.psi-atis.com). I wanted to add some comments in hopes that it further explains some of the questions below.


    In general, approximately 50% of all new trailers are now being made with automatic tire inflation (ATIS). While there are other suppliers out there, MTIS by PSI is the clear market leader, and has been around for 21 years (more than any other supplier). Typically, fleets get their investment back within (1) year, through fuel savings, tire life improvement, labor savings and roadside call avoidance (since it can keep a tire inflated with small punctures/leaks).


    First thing is make sure that if you have issues with your ATIS, make sure that you know which one you have, by looking at the control box. It is common for fleets to assume that they are using ours, since we are the most widely accepted.


    The following comments are specific to MTIS by PSI;


    It is always a good idea to do a pre-check, whenever taking possession of a new trailer, and as previously mentioned, a simple visual check of the system on-off valve at the inlet side of the control box to ensure that it is turned on. While it is infrequent, on occasion, some trailers may leave the plant with the system on (regardless of the trailer manufacturer).


    1. We put a decal on the inside and outside of the box that indicates what the tire pressure setting is (e.g. 95 PSI).


    2. The regulator is set to 3 PSI above the tire setting. This is because the tire hoses have valves with a 3 PSI crack pressure. Therefore in order to get 95 PSI into the tire, the regulator is set to 98 PSI.


    3. There is a pressure protection valve (PPV) mounted on the air tank, that makes sure that your air brakes have priority. Once the air reaches the minimum pressure, the PPV will allow air pressure to flow though the control box.


    4. The system ensures that your tires are at a minimum level. It will not deflate your tires, as tires are designed to run above the cold pressure.


    5. It is very easy to check the tire pressure, should you need to do so, by removing the hose at the cap. Typically, no tools are required, as the knurled fittings will allow themselves to be removed by hand. A check valve will close the supply at the hub cap at that point, so you do not need to turn off the system. Then, simply use a calibrated gauge at the hose end to check tire pressure. Be sure to properly tighten the hose back to the cap connection.


    For more detailed information, please visit the Meritor website (www.Meritor.com) and go to the customer center to download the Maintenance Manual (MM-14P) for detailed procedures.


    Please feel free to also visit the PSI website and contact any of our team members listed under the contact list.


    I hope this helps!
     
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  7. wichris

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    I found the easiest way was to put an air pressure gauge in-line off the control box. Quick glance will show if a tire or line is leaking, then go on to check individual tires.
     
  8. HardlyWorkingNeverHome

    HardlyWorkingNeverHome Heavy Load Member

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    As a new user to your system I have to say I like the concept. 2 flaws I find with the system are easily fixed. First, most drivers don't know the basics of the system. I would create a video that explains in a straight forward way what the on off valve is and its intended use, how the system works, and all the check valve and safety features. Fleets will want to certify their drivers, especially mid size fleets that feel this is a huge investment and want to see the greatest return if they try your product.

    Second is mechanical. There should be two lights on the system. One that goes red or green showing that the system is on and working properly. The other one is the one already in use.

    One other issue, the line that goes to the inside tire needs a spinning connector. We are running into an issue that after you attach the inside line, we are loosening the connector when you connect the other end to the hub. I think part of the problem is the needle in the valve stem is being pushed in before a proper seal is made. This causes the tire to slow leak through the valve stem at as little as a quarter turn from completely attached.

    Is that link you posted available as a sticker that could be put on trailers? I'll be forwarding this link to our shop.
     
  9. STexan

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    As is touched on in post #7. Is there a way to test the light while parked to insure the light (and it's supporting system) is functioning properly? (Besides puncturing a tire)

    It looks like it would illuminate momentarily as soon as power is supplied to the ABS system to indicate the light is at least working when called for.
     
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  10. SingerDude

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    I was told, that one of my hubs are leaking and they (shop) simply disconnected all air hoses and shut the system off.
    Question, how much does it cost to fix it, approximately?
    Anyone, anyone... Bueller?
     
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