Is Honesty The Best Policy?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by PapaRich, May 6, 2015.

  1. PapaRich

    PapaRich Bobtail Member

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    I've only been driving for 4 months and both of the companies I've worked for have "required" that I falsify logs to get the job done.

    The first was a team route for a BIG company and they wanted me to be logged into the sleeper berth while I was unloading the truck and driving between stops.

    The second had the attitude that if they could get it on the truck I should be able to deliver it, even if I had to drive 22 hours a day. Or run all week with between an hour and 6 hours of sleep a night.

    I believe in being honest, and I'm teaching my kids to be honest. I applied for a driver job at Schneider and yesterday I told Schneider about an accident that I got into backing up in a roadway. They told me that, "Any driver who backs up in a roadway for any reason, whether or not it results in an accident cannot work for Schneider for 7 years." I was told that by two of their recruiters, Melissa and Tyler.

    Now I've only been driving for 4 months, but I drove a lot in Chicago and there are a LOT of docks and parking lots you can't get into without backing up in a roadway. I spoke with one of Schneider's trainers and she has backed up in a roadway to get into a dock while working for them and says that at least half of all of Schneider's drivers have had to at some point. Schneider says it is, "Not an activity that they condone."

    That accident is not on my PSP report, I was not cited for the accident, and I have no CSA points.

    I don't want to run illegal, and I don't want to be a liar for a living. But it seems like every company has some BS and lying about it is just part of the job no matter where you work. It also seem like lying is a requirement whether you run computer logs or paper, work for a big company or a little one.

    What would you do? What would you suggest?
     
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  3. Thediamond13

    Thediamond13 Light Load Member

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    keep looking and putting in apps. Be honest about the accident because it will come up on your DAC. Good luck!
     
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  4. Vermaxtar

    Vermaxtar Light Load Member

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    Then don't work for Schneider, there are a lot of companies out there. Don't run illegal, it is not worth it. If someone were to hit you and you shouldn't have been driving you are screwed big time. And about that accident, if the only way to get into a place is backing down a roadway, so be it. If there is no paper trail, why report it? Consider it a freebee, a learning experience and be more careful next time.
     
  5. wsyrob

    wsyrob Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    This is a case of Schneider recruiters not having a clue about what happens out in the real world. I had a delivery in Brooklyn once where the only way out was to back through a stop light the wrong way up a 1 way street. Fortunately I had a couple of non English speaking spotters blocking traffic and making cars move out of my way. They were driving box trucks who couldn't leave until I got out of the way.
     
  6. Vermaxtar

    Vermaxtar Light Load Member

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    He said there was no reporting of the accident, so how can it come up on his DAC?
     
  7. PapaRich

    PapaRich Bobtail Member

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    I'm fine not working for Schneider. What if every trucking company had that policy, and everyone had to be honest about whether they had ever backed up in a roadway?

    These companies cover their own buts with "official policies" and then ask their drivers to break them.

    Are there any honest, realistic companies out there, or is lying part of the job?
     
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  8. G.Anthony

    G.Anthony Road Train Member

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    He still would have had to report the accident to his former employer, whom if they subscribe to DAC, would still list it as an accident he had.
     
  9. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    I wouldn't say I was backing up in a roadway; I would say I was backing into a dock off the street in an old part of town.

    Where is your location?

    Plenty of companies will hire you; keep the talk to a bare minimum about the backing incident.
     
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  10. PapaRich

    PapaRich Bobtail Member

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    The police were called and they filled out an accident report, but as far as I know that was it.
     
  11. Steve62

    Steve62 Light Load Member

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    I deliver fuel in a super B. I have stations that I can not drive though and I have to back out onto major road ways. I have been told I can not ask the station attendant to guide me out as the station would be liable.

    Good thing is my carrier at least knows what I am doing. Oh and so far I have been #### house lucky and not hit or been hit by anyone.
     
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