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Old 07.07.2008
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Car hauling is very hard. But that's what is so good about it. It really gets into your blood. Nothing better than finally finding your last car and building your load. It's a big jig saw puzzle that sometimes can seem impossible. But after enough experience, you figure it out quickly. The hardest part is finding your cars.
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Car hauling is very hard. But that's what is so good about it. It really gets into your blood. Nothing better than finally finding your last car and building your load. It's a big jig saw puzzle that sometimes can seem impossible. But after enough experience, you figure it out quickly. The hardest part is finding your cars.

There is a sense of accomplishment after loading a difficult load...

I love when the union guys try their hand at the world of mixed load used cars, usually funny and shell-shocked.


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I have heard after you get 4-5 years in, and you can start hauling cars or doing hazmat, that is where the money is. As newbies (like me) get into trucking, spend 4-5 years getting experience, then you start hauling cars, i am sure there is another amount of time you have to 'put in' before you get going with a well established car hauling company. Maybe if you are lucky enough, can go to say all your "Midwest Ford/Cadillac dealers" and work just for them.
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At PMTG all you need is 1 year OTR to hire on. I disagree with their hiring practice as far as experience. I've been with them for almost 2 years and as long as you save your money when things are busy, you don't mind sitting at home for a week at a time like I am right now. This is just a warm up for when I go on vacation in 2 weeks. LOL
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why are they mostly pulled by cabovers?
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why are they mostly pulled by cabovers?
Did I miss something here? The last cabover carhaulers were the Lowliner 'shakers of the late ninetys. We're different then regular trucks in that our overall length is limited. The extra space behind the cab on a cabover isn't worth the hassles of the top front spot. And a buckboard rode better!

Oh, duh! Brain fart! Must be talking about all those enclosed rigs that PMG runs. Nowadays even the enclosed have switched to them little Sterlings. Let's ya get one more over the hood. Not to mention that nobody sells cabovers stateside any more. Used to be to able to order K100 KW's a few years back but not sure now.

Carhauling's not for everyone, ya have to have good spatial IQ. Tried to train some guys who were really good drivers, but didn't have it for carhauling. To be good at this you have to be able to 'see' your load before you start loading. And remember what weighs what. Also, with the stinger fifth wheel, our weight distribution works a little differently. We don't carry nearly as much on our fifth wheels as a semi does and what weight is there dramatically effects steer axle loads. Because of the length limits, stretching out for weight is not allowed. We can move a little weight around by sliding decks. But for the most part, you load it right or do it all over again.

The financial rewards are awesome, but so are the risks. Doesn't take much to do 2000 dollars of damage, and 2500 dollar deductible is common. My equipment cost over 4000 a month and good fuel mileage is a relative term for us. My current fuel cost is .91 per mile. But if you're cut out for it, the money's there. I'll gross somewhere over 400,000 this year and often clear in excess of 10,000 per month. And I'm home every weekend. Every one.

The reason most outfits running open equipment want so much experience is there is so much more to worry about. Your minimum turn radius changes with every load. Tree branches are not your friends. Dips in driveways can bite ya quick. You have to be quick-thinking. "do I need to stretch out to make this corner" and " can I clear that dip if I lift?" we can raise our suspension to give us a little more ground clearance. With all the overhang beyond the axles out back, putting one these in a tight spot is more than a challenge. You can't (well, I sure as hell won't) park in a spot where someone can back up to you. My overall length is 82 feet, even a Pete with a 53 is only 72 or 73. Kind of limits your parking choices. If you don't want damage you WILL check for dangling chains every stop. If you're hauling auction cars you will get your exercise. I know of plenty of sold lots that are a quarter mile from your truck. Walk ten out of there when it's 100 degrees. Have fun trying to find your cars when they've got a foot of snow on 'em. Even more fun when it's the wrong color on your gate pass. In the dark. And it's still snowing! Depending on how big your load is, load time is 1 to 2 hours. Not counting walking time. Of physical labor (climb, tighten chain, lift flipper, etc). I have calves of steel. Boots last a year at best, often six months.

But you couldn't get me back to moving freight, not with rope, chains, and a pair of handcuffs! Not even with Muleskinner's lizard chasin' stick
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From what I see car hauling is preety good. I just passed my permit A class and I am looking into W/S to train and start up. I have a newborn baby girl and a two year old girl. I am also married so I know that otr will be tough for my family. But you have to pay your dues to get ahead in this business. I really want to haul cars I LOVE CARS!!!!. Is is hard to open up your own car hauling business or is it better to become O/O for car haulers ??????

Any advice will be appreciated !!
There is numerous companies that will teach you to haul cars but most requir some OTR experiance before they will hire and train. But the companies that will train are both union and non union, and I personally would not recomend being an o/o
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Did I miss something here? The last cabover carhaulers were the Lowliner 'shakers of the late ninetys. We're different then regular trucks in that our overall length is limited. The extra space behind the cab on a cabover isn't worth the hassles of the top front spot. And a buckboard rode better!

Oh, duh! Brain fart! Must be talking about all those enclosed rigs that PMG runs. Nowadays even the enclosed have switched to them little Sterlings. Let's ya get one more over the hood. Not to mention that nobody sells cabovers stateside any more. Used to be to able to order K100 KW's a few years back but not sure now.

Carhauling's not for everyone, ya have to have good spatial IQ. Tried to train some guys who were really good drivers, but didn't have it for carhauling. To be good at this you have to be able to 'see' your load before you start loading. And remember what weighs what. Also, with the stinger fifth wheel, our weight distribution works a little differently. We don't carry nearly as much on our fifth wheels as a semi does and what weight is there dramatically effects steer axle loads. Because of the length limits, stretching out for weight is not allowed. We can move a little weight around by sliding decks. But for the most part, you load it right or do it all over again.

The financial rewards are awesome, but so are the risks. Doesn't take much to do 2000 dollars of damage, and 2500 dollar deductible is common. My equipment cost over 4000 a month and good fuel mileage is a relative term for us. My current fuel cost is .91 per mile. But if you're cut out for it, the money's there. I'll gross somewhere over 400,000 this year and often clear in excess of 10,000 per month. And I'm home every weekend. Every one.

The reason most outfits running open equipment want so much experience is there is so much more to worry about. Your minimum turn radius changes with every load. Tree branches are not your friends. Dips in driveways can bite ya quick. You have to be quick-thinking. "do I need to stretch out to make this corner" and " can I clear that dip if I lift?" we can raise our suspension to give us a little more ground clearance. With all the overhang beyond the axles out back, putting one these in a tight spot is more than a challenge. You can't (well, I sure as hell won't) park in a spot where someone can back up to you. My overall length is 82 feet, even a Pete with a 53 is only 72 or 73. Kind of limits your parking choices. If you don't want damage you WILL check for dangling chains every stop. If you're hauling auction cars you will get your exercise. I know of plenty of sold lots that are a quarter mile from your truck. Walk ten out of there when it's 100 degrees. Have fun trying to find your cars when they've got a foot of snow on 'em. Even more fun when it's the wrong color on your gate pass. In the dark. And it's still snowing! Depending on how big your load is, load time is 1 to 2 hours. Not counting walking time. Of physical labor (climb, tighten chain, lift flipper, etc). I have calves of steel. Boots last a year at best, often six months.

But you couldn't get me back to moving freight, not with rope, chains, and a pair of handcuffs! Not even with Muleskinner's lizard chasin' stick
I could not agree more great post
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Guys I want to get back into car hauling but need to know of some good companies. I applied for Selland, and I'm "approved" But they aren't calling me. I like the fact they haul new cars. That means no auctions, and no personal vehicles.
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