i never got in a situation such as your thinking but i would have split the money being as i was a good trainer but your aweful demanding before you even get in a trainers truck. i had a few guys that tried to tell me my job before they even knew there job. thats the students i hated to run into. but all in all it all worked out. never kicked one out, but a few i felt like doing it to.

Nah....I'm not 'demanding' at all. I will consider a trainers truck as his own personal home. I wouldn't 'demand' to watch whatever TV show I wanted, or 'demand' what i wanted for dinner. I am there to LEARN, and EARN money, but i wont be robbed blind. I mean if we were being paid $80 to unload a truck, i had better see half of it, unless I didn't do half the work. ya know?? I will do whatever the trainer told me to do, and learn in the process. That is what i am there for. But for a trainer (if i got one like this) that would only give me $5 out of a $80 unload 'bonus', is no different than if the trainer waited for me to go to sleep, open my breifcase/wallet and took out 3 twenty dollar bills..

once the lumpers are paid... make sure you get a receipt with their tax id on it.... make a copy b4 you give to your company..... wonder why???? no receipt and the company will tax you.....

the money is added to your commdata card... once the lumper calls it in, the money is attached to the check number you gave him...

if you do not submit a receipt the company has no idea who cashed the check... so hence you are now taxed for that amount...

and normally 3-4 hrs is normal for an unload... usually they have to break down the pallets as per their paperwork... the company gives them 2 hrs then you get detent pay... whoopiiii... might buy you a hamburger..

If you work for who you think i do, you will never have to pay for lumpers, nor will you ever have to unload your own truck, your company always pays for lumpers, and never has a driver do it due to driver fatigue from unloading a truck, if your trainer says you unload call your dm immediatley, the trainer isnt doing his job right. anyway thats my thought.

I have to give you credit where credit is due LOL...

Now that you've managed to get the boxes off,,,did you happen to make sure someone was counting them too? If not, you may be looking at another hour or so LOL.

AND...you still ain't goin nowhere, until you have those bills

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First off your very demanding in your posts and from reading them i know i wouldnt want to have to train someone with this attitude. Everything you do during your 4-6 weeks of training is just that, training. Even from unloading boxes. He shouldnt have to give you half of the $80, because he's teaching you to the job. Really he doesnt have to give you anything, he's taking the time to show you the ropes, teach you "how to unload" the truck. He doesnt have to be a prick about it, and probably wont, but dont think your intitled to half of anything as a trainee. You and your trainer are not equals at the job, so the money shouldnt be split equally. Thats why the company is paying you 300 a week and not cpm, cuz your training. Leave that attitude at home when you get on that truck. Take your licks, learn the ropes and be greatful.

As a former trainer, I disagree. While he may appear cocky...and what truck driver isn't ? He does have the right to be paid for his work, even if he is a trainee.

I would often tell trainees, "We can knock this out in an hour, and split $17.50 an hour, or you can unload/break it down yourself in 2 hours...and keep all the money." I never had a trainee tell me he would split the money.

Unloading "boxes" is not rocket science. And every penny counts for a new driver that needs it. Which most do. I'm there to concentrate on developing/improving his driving skills and customer relations. Not to milk him for money.

On the other hand, I may have appeared lazy to the trainee. But, it's a matter of prospective. I'd already made 3-600 more that week than my trainee. Why would I insist on keeping most or all of the unload pay? I would at least offer a 50/50 split if I helped unload.

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My thoughts exactly. Though i am still puzzled on how i come off as being 'demanding' in all my posts you've read. You must not have read all my posts.

And I have to agree with Dan. Training me to stack boxes? Is there a certian way to do it that i am not aware of?? there is a BIG DIFFERENCE between manual labor and driving a truck. Manual labor, we are equal, driving a truck...i understand my place.

Just a bit of FYI

Yes there is. Especially if you are unloading at a grocery warehouse. My advise there...pay the lumper lmao.

There isn't anything like having 20 pallets of ice cream on, with 6 flavors. Then ####weed showing up with a 80 pallet breakdown, with variable amounts of each flavor on each pallet.

Grocery warehouses should all burn in hell

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You do come across as very demanding in a lot of ways. There is a lot to learn about the trucking business...Some people come out here expecting to be running all the time...then comes reality...You do end up sitting at the receivers or shippers whether on the property or in a dock. You come to ask advise of experienced drivers and they tell you the truth and then you want to debate the point. POINT being if you are a trainee the trainer may let you gain the knowledge of asking for the information on how to hire a lumber and write the information on what ever type of check system (t-check or ComData) this is charged to the trainer not out of your pocket. The only time it comes out of your pocket is one of three ways. 1.) you run solo, 2.) you are the lead seat of a team, 3.) you lose the receipt then you will be paying full price for the lumber.
Believe me you will want to hire a lumber, the brake down of a load can cost you much more then time...this is the break down and the sorting of the load. You might bring in five pallets and the brake down can be broken into 20 pallets depending on the load ... Drivers don't get paid very well on driver assist loads. LUMPER'S are faster because they know the companies requirements and the brake down and the sorting.
Once you hit the dock and find out the price of the service, get the price then go into the sleeper or the truckers lounge...relax.
Listen to what everyone is telling you, these brothers and sisters have all been there before. LISTEN TO THEM they would steer you wrong; learn from others...isn't that why you're here asking questions!