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Old 07.22.2008
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If your company pays for lumpers, use the company's money. There is no way that you can earn more money unloading freight than by driving. Use the unload time to nap/sleep. You will be glad you did.
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You do come across as very demanding in a lot of ways. There is a lot to learn about the trucking business...Some people come out here expecting to be running all the time...then comes reality...You do end up sitting at the receivers or shippers whether on the property or in a dock. You come to ask advise of experienced drivers and they tell you the truth and then you want to debate the point. POINT being if you are a trainee the trainer may let you gain the knowledge of asking for the information on how to hire a lumber and write the information on what ever type of check system (t-check or ComData) this is charged to the trainer not out of your pocket. The only time it comes out of your pocket is one of three ways. 1.) you run solo, 2.) you are the lead seat of a team, 3.) you lose the receipt then you will be paying full price for the lumber.
Believe me you will want to hire a lumber, the brake down of a load can cost you much more then time...this is the break down and the sorting of the load. You might bring in five pallets and the brake down can be broken into 20 pallets depending on the load ... Drivers don't get paid very well on driver assist loads. LUMPER'S are faster because they know the companies requirements and the brake down and the sorting.
Once you hit the dock and find out the price of the service, get the price then go into the sleeper or the truckers lounge...relax.
Listen to what everyone is telling you, these brothers and sisters have all been there before. LISTEN TO THEM they would steer you wrong; learn from others...isn't that why you're here asking questions!
First off, i dont care 'how i come across'. I'm me...and am not going to change just because someone dont like me.

2nd....I am there to unload my truck. I show up with 5 pallets, then unload 5 pallets, and get me on my way. Why should I have to wait for lumpers to break down a pallet into five different ones cause that is what the store wants. I am not there to wait to break down a pallet into five because that is store policy or something. i am there to unload their goods. Get the load off my truck, and i'll be on my way.

Guess someone is going to tell me it dont work like that. Something i am missing?? There more than just the freight company getting the goods from "point A" to "point b" that I am missing??

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Guess someone is going to tell me it dont work like that. Something i am missing?? There more than just the freight company getting the goods from "point A" to "point b" that I am missing??
Oh yehhhh. you're missing a lot. It's NOT their freight. It's yours, until they sign the bills. You're free to leave whenever you want. Empty or not. But until those bills are signed....it's still your freight.

Thankfully, many of the grocery warehouses have started snatching the pallets off and letting the driver leave. Then they restack it.

But there are still a lot of them that will keep your jets cooling, while they break it down.
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First off, i dont care 'how i come across'. I'm me...and am not going to change just because someone dont like me.
Now just to get things straight....

You come here asking experienced drivers how to become a truck driver, yet you dont care, and seem to dispute what they tell you anyway
Can you tell me one reason why anyone should help someone that already seems to know it all such as yourself?


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2nd....I am there to unload my truck. I show up with 5 pallets, then unload 5 pallets, and get me on my way. Why should I have to wait for lumpers to break down a pallet into five different ones cause that is what the store wants. I am not there to wait to break down a pallet into five because that is store policy or something. i am there to unload their goods. Get the load off my truck, and i'll be on my way.
Its strange cause I was under the impression that we as truck drivers were responsible to take the cargo from Point A to Point B, and once the receiver had verified that all the goods which he is paying for was accounted for he would gladly sign the BOL and the driver then and only then would go on his way.....

Perhaps I have been doing it wrong

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Guess someone is going to tell me it dont work like that. Something i am missing?? There more than just the freight company getting the goods from "point A" to "point b" that I am missing??
Whats going to happen when you go to a pick up and there are 10 trucks ahead of you?

All I can say is good luck, cause I really think you are going to need it!
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Whats going to happen when you go to a pick up and there are 10 trucks ahead of you?

All I can say is good luck, cause I really think you are going to need it!
Hell..I didn't even think about that LOL.

He's just asking for a ### whoppin deluxe if he tries to jump line
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You come here asking experienced drivers how to become a truck driver, yet you dont care, and seem to dispute what they tell you anyway

Can you tell me one reason why anyone should help someone that already seems to know it all such as yourself?
I ask a question, i appreciate the answer, BUT if i dont understand something...i'll ask a question to get more information about it. I've worked in a lumber yard and know that trucks can get backed up. Jumping line? I hardly think i'd even try that even if i'm still driving 10+ years down the road. Just disrespectful.

But i dont laydown for anybody, for any reason. I dont like something, or ask to do something that might be a bit 'illegal', ill walk.
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I ask a question, i appreciate the answer, BUT if i dont understand something...i'll ask a question to get more information about it. I've worked in a lumber yard and know that trucks can get backed up. Jumping line? I hardly think i'd even try that even if i'm still driving 10+ years down the road. Just disrespectful.

But i dont laydown for anybody, for any reason. I dont like something, or ask to do something that might be a bit 'illegal', ill walk.
You asked a question about lumper's and many drivers have ""tried" tell you how things work in the REAL WORLD of trucking, then you take as if NOBODY likes me.
GO ahead and try to jump ahead of the drivers that are there before you and you will find yourself in trouble with a lot of drivers. You might have a 10:00 am appointment but that doesn't mean that there isn't 10 drivers that have the same appointment time. In-fact if there is a problem there might be drivers that had 9:00 am appointment that are still waiting for a door, if you go to a shipper that the product that isn't ready then you will have DOWN time before they can get you loaded. There is a lot to trucking then you are looking at. If you come with 5 pallets doesn't mean that that does break down to 5 pallets those pallets can easily become 10 to 15 pallets depending on the merchandise that you are moving. You won't be able to leave the shipper or receiver until you receive the bills. Here is a guarantee statement - If you become demanding they we find a way to cool your jets. If you don't believe any of the drivers here that have tried to give you advice...Don't say you haven't been warned when you are asking your self...Why haven't I gotten load or unloaded yet or Why is this driver upset with me because I jumped ahead of them. If you are driving a dry van or a refer the rules might be different for flat beds due to the fact I don't have any personal experience with this type of trailer.
If you at the drivers that have been trying to help you and see the years of driving and take that into account you might see that they have more experience than you do so they are really trying to help you and they for the most part are not going to lead you astray but give you sound advice and not going to tell you something that you want to hear.
Being a driver has a lot of things that most people don't know but is something that is learned through year or years of driving.
Some people come out here because of the MONEY factor. Truck drivers make a lot of money. But they are not aware of the REAL life of what driver actually have to put up with to make the money.
Read around the sites here and you might see what the real world of trucking is really about. Good Luck in the life of a Trucker ....you'll need it!
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Oh yehhhh. you're missing a lot. It's NOT their freight. It's yours, until they sign the bills. You're free to leave whenever you want. Empty or not. But until those bills are signed....it's still your freight.

Thankfully, many of the grocery warehouses have started snatching the pallets off and letting the driver leave. Then they restack it.

But there are still a lot of them that will keep your jets cooling, while they break it down.
I agree with you 110%, Snowman & Fred has a lot to learn about this business. The REAL world of trucking instead of the misconceptions of what people think of what is really going on.
It would be nice if he looks at the experience of the drivers trying to help him out and take it for solid advice and not try to make it into "Nobody likes me".
Hopefully he'll come back here once he/they find out what we have told is the real Truth and not made up.
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nowhere did i ever say i would 'jump the line'. you are acting like i asked a question, and sticking fingers in my ear going "LA LA LA LA" like a little child until i hear the answer I want to hear.

Waiting in line? Don't have any way of avoiding that now can I.
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Just a quick revisit to echo some of the things already said.

Snowman, there are a lot of things NOT covered in this forum that will make you rethink everything you ever saw within this forum. You'll get a be OH damn...nobody ever said anything about this

Some things just can't be said. They would send the guys in the white coats for us. Other things just get missed because there is so much information.

And some things, are just personal/private Some good some bad.

Speaking just for myself. I could post somethings that would have me permanently banned from this forum But they aren't really that useful. And only serve to point out some of the darker (much darker) issues of trucking.



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nowhere did i ever say i would 'jump the line'. you are acting like i asked a question, and sticking fingers in my ear going "LA LA LA LA" like a little child until i hear the answer I want to hear.

Waiting in line? Don't have any way of avoiding that now can I.
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