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bobolobo · **^ Top** #1 11.13.2008

does heartland express do hair follicle drug tests

walleye · **^ Top** #2 11.13.2008

If your worried about it,...I would skip the test..........If your not worried about it..Why care??

psanderson · **^ Top** #3 11.13.2008

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Originally Posted by bobolobo

does heartland express do hair follicle drug tests

Federal rules prohibit this type test for safety sensitive functions. The test for safety sensitive employees must be non-invasive of the anatomy therefore urine with a 5-panel N.I.D.A testing procedure. Read 49 CFR parts 40, and 382.

Hair can detect drug usage many years ago but a 5=panel cannot go back that far.

If you're that worried about it you may want to consider a different line of work.

bobolobo · **^ Top** #4 11.13.2008

that wasn't my question

bobolobo · **^ Top** #5 11.13.2008

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Originally Posted by walleye

If your worried about it,...I would skip the test..........If your not worried about it..Why care??

that wasn't my question but thanx for your 2 cents

Lurchgs · **^ Top** #6 11.13.2008

why not call them and ask?

As already pointed out, the can't do it under the auspices of the FMCSA... and I'm not aware of any other legislation that would allow it. Invasive tests require court approval as far as I am aware (or subject permission)

bobolobo · **^ Top** #7 11.13.2008

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Originally Posted by Lurchgs

why not call them and ask?

As already pointed out, the can't do it under the auspices of the FMCSA... and I'm not aware of any other legislation that would allow it. Invasive tests require court approval as far as I am aware (or subject permission)

2-1/2 months ago I irresponsibly smoked a joint at a party. I don't touch the stuff on a regular basis. none the less a couple weeks ago I went to an orientation at a company that I wont mention and they said that they were doing hair follicle tests on their own behalf in addition to the d.o.t test. they then explained that it could detect upto 3 months back. I told the people that I didn't like some other aspect of the company before I was sent to take the test. I then got in my car and drove home.

Lurchgs · **^ Top** #8 11.13.2008

I'd check with the legal profession, but I don't (personally) think it's legal

psanderson · **^ Top** #9 11.14.2008

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Originally Posted by Lurchgs

I'd check with the legal profession, but I don't (personally) think it's legal

Over and above the mandated rules, a company has the right to do such things. It may not seem right, but it is nonetheless legal provided the criteria is in writing and provided to the individual. Failure to provide the information to the individual could make the non-regulated test illegal but none of we on this forum are attorneys, or so I assume therefore how may we state anything in this regard?

A follicle test is much less expensive to eliminate persons who MAY be unwanted once one considers the paper trail on mandated testing plus company employee time Re. that paper trail etc. If one therefore considers the economics of it; it does make sense however that is a chicken-sh&* way of doing business in my opinion.

But one must also ask something Re. your above statement stating you don't smoke marijuana on a regular basis.

bobolobo · **^ Top** #10 11.15.2008

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Originally Posted by psanderson

Over and above the mandated rules, a company has the right to do such things. It may not seem right, but it is nonetheless legal provided the criteria is in writing and provided to the individual. Failure to provide the information to the individual could make the non-regulated test illegal but none of we on this forum are attorneys, or so I assume therefore how may we state anything in this regard?

A follicle test is much less expensive to eliminate persons who MAY be unwanted once one considers the paper trail on mandated testing plus company employee time Re. that paper trail etc. If one therefore considers the economics of it; it does make sense however that is a chicken-sh&* way of doing business in my opinion.

But one must also ask something Re. your above statement stating you don't smoke marijuana on a regular basis.

once a blue moon, "very blue." which is slightly better than your average old timer truck driver that uses meth to run 4000 miles a week. I've seen an heard so many old timers on the stuff and it makes me sick to know that they would even get behind the wheel of a 40 ton truck and drive on the stuff.

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