Truckers' Trucking Forum | Largest Class A Message Board - The Premier Truck Drivers Forum!  

Trucker MySpace - Truckers Making Friends. Chicken Truckers Come Meet Other Truckers!

Truck Trading Post - New Classified Ads Section! Post for Free, Sell Your Stuff Fast!




Go Back   Truckers' Trucking Forum | Largest Class A Message Board > Truckers & The Trucking Industry > Experienced Truckers' Advice

Truckers' Trucking Forum/Message Board - The Premiere Truck Driver Forum

Experienced Truckers' Advice Truckers' Lounge. Are you an experienced driver who wants to tell newer drivers something? Let them know your opinions here! Are You just dying to get something off your chest? Here's the place.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 1 votes, 5.00 average. Display Modes
  ^ Top   #51  
Old 02.08.2009
Bobtail Member
 
Last Seen: 07.14.2009 03.23 PM
Member Since: Oct 2007
Location: Seligman, Arizona
Trucker? 6 Years
Age: 50
Posts: 18
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 6
Thanked: 7 Times
I've never been a trainer but I can tell you from my experience of being trained that sometimes the left brain and the right brain can get confused. The trainer is saying turn right and your thinking I have to turn left to turn right and so you do the opposite of what the trainer wants. The easiest way to remedy this situation (it's what my trainer did with me when I explained my confusion) is to lay out the rules and the "hand signals" prior to the exercise. For instance, determine if when you say turn to the right you mean "turn the wheel to the right" or are you saying turn the trailer to the right. My husband and I having been teaming for the past 8 years (he was my trainer), we use two way radio's to spot for each other. If I tell him to give it more right, he knows I mean that the trailer needs to come to the right and he reacts accordingly. Also everyone's perception is different. My husband (trainer) would ask me "what are you seeing?" and I would be specific then he would say so what do you need to do to correct? and I would tell him what I thought. Sometimes he would say ok, try it. At first I would quickly find out the I was wrong and he would explain why I was wrong, then he would have me try again. Eventually the proverbial light bulb would go off and I got it. Sometimes if there's not a danger of an accident it's good to let a new driver make mistakes and in the correction of the mistake they are able to learn. As someone said earlier if the trainer is constantly telling you what to do you never really learn HOW it's done. You're just following instructions. Making mistakes and learning how to correct those mistakes is the ultimate learning experience as long as there is no danger posed to the driver, others or property.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to AZSunshine For This Useful Post:
dawgfan (02.08.2009), luvtheroad (02.10.2009)
Remove This Ad By Registering. Join Our Truck Forum and Trucking Community For Free. Sponsored Links:

  ^ Top   #52  
Old 02.10.2009
Light Load Member
 
Last Seen: 20 Hours Ago 11.27 AM
Member Since: Oct 2008
Location: Port Clinton, Ohio
Trucker? 12 Years
Posts: 50
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 1
Thanked: 7 Times
I was, once, a trainer for a company that does out & back runs. Or, one day round trips. My observance was that many "trainers" needed some training for them selves. They just agreed to do the job thinking it would be "brownie points and/or power of some sort. And, they figured it would be easier than it turned out to be. It certainly didn't pay anymore with this company. I did it because it made my job easier when I wasn't training. i.e., how long do I want to wait behind a rookie to get MY job done? Anyway, in most cases, the success of a rookie is directly proportional to the abilities, and knowledge of the trainer. Not only with regards to operating the equipmnet, but dealing with many different personalities. The first step in my training regimine, was to understand the students' personality. And, this is as easy as sitting there, in the cab, and talking to them for about fifteen minutes. With a few simple, baseline questions, you can determine, before the first move, what kind of person you are training. Is this person introverted? Is this a "know-it-all" (the worst)? So on, and so on. If you're smart, you will pick up on how receptive someone is within mere minutes. And, then you adjust your training methods to suit them. But, lo, and behold, there are some people who just aren't cut out to drive a truck. Too bad, there are so many that are doing it. You know who you are.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Rookie O/O, vet driver For This Useful Post:
Bubba O'Reilly (04.08.2009)
  ^ Top   #53  
Old 05.17.2009
Light Load Member
 
Last Seen: 1 Week Ago 06.51 PM
Member Since: Feb 2008
Location: Colorado Springs
Trucker? 5 Years
Age: 29
Posts: 94
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 4
Thanked: 15 Times
Well, I have a student right now who knew everything about the trucking industry before he ever got on the truck, and he just went through school a few weeks ago. He tells me I'm wrong more then even my worst ex-girlfriend ever did. I tried to dump him off at one of our terminals in PA yesterday but the company told me I have to get him back to Denver before I can get rid of him. I feel like a prisoner in my own truck. I'm done training, never again will I be forced to keep a someone on my truck when they NEED to get off it.

I'll reconsider training once I have my own truck and am at a much better company.
Reply With Quote
  ^ Top   #54  
Old 05.17.2009
Freebird135's Avatar
Medium Load Member
 
Last Seen: 6 Hours Ago 01.50 AM
Member Since: May 2009
Trucker? 1 Year
Age: 21
Posts: 340
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 64
Thanked: 42 Times
Quote:
Originally Posted by danc694u View Post
One mistake I see made often, by students and trainers alike. The holding of hands, for 4-6 weeks. There comes a time during backing, that a student has to do it by himself. If the student refuses to try it alone, or the trainer is always giving him input. Nothing gets learned...except how to listen.
when i learned how to back trailers in a yard jockey bout 2 years ago, this is what happened

i went out there with a guy my first day, he rode in the jockey truck with me (tight fit).....he explained everything word for word, told me when to cut the wheel, how hard to cut it, what to look for when to start straightening out....it didnt work

the next day a different guy...did the same thing, but he was worse about it, he would grab the wheel and start steering for me while backing...i wasnt learning much


third day, third guy....he said hop in that horse, grab an empty pup and put it in 55 door, come find me when your done...and believe it or not i learned 10x faster by doing it myself

of course they have to tell you the basics, but you will learn to do it best (in my opinion) by doing it yourself...having somebody over your shoulder who wont shut up about "cut it left, cut it back right, straighten her out, pull up to the left then swing it right" just does NOT work, for me atleast
Reply With Quote
  ^ Top   #55  
Old 05.17.2009
Light Load Member
 
Last Seen: 6 Hours Ago 01.39 AM
Member Since: Aug 2006
Location: Bristol, VA
Trucker? 3 Years
Posts: 126
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked: 10 Times
In a previous life I was a Certified Flight Instructor and also taught martial arts for several years.

In flight training we did something we called "hangar flying" pull up a couple of chairs out in the hangar and pretend that you are in the plane. It really gets the old brain working. I don't know how much that might help in your situation, but maybe you could somehow adapt that to fit.

Sometimes teaching martial arts you run into the guy who "thinks" he is a bad dude, or used to be a boxer, or whatever. But the point is that he already has it in his/her head that you are just there to demonstrate something. You show him, he nods his head and then wants to move on to something else. You haven't "taught" him anything. It is just something that tomorrow the guy will say to his buddies "check this out" and do something that may, in a roundabout way, but not really at all, resemble what you showed him. In that situation I am totally honest with the student and usually tell him to take a break and grab some water or whatever and then just have a seat for a minute and just ask him straight up. "Hey man, I keep showing you this stuff and you just don't seem to want to take me seriously. Is there something else I can do to help you out here? Everyone learns differently and you have to find what works for that particular student.

Some people are just unteachable. Sorry to say it, but it is true, and you, the teacher have to be able to recognize that and accept it.

I don't know if my .02 Cents is going to be of any help whatsoever, but hopefullly you can get some use out of it.

Good Luck,

Dave
__________________
Workin' like a dog
Reply With Quote
  ^ Top   #56  
Old 05.18.2009
didntitellu's Avatar
Light Load Member
 
Last Seen: 3 Weeks Ago 09.55 AM
Member Since: Jul 2007
Location: Ohio
Trucker? 2 Years
Age: 42
Posts: 274
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 9
Thanked: 30 Times
I have been training for a little over a year now. I find every student is diff in the way they learn. The first week usually is just learning how to communicate on a level they can absorb without them feeling pressured. Then the fun begins! Every month is a learning expeience for me too.

I have never had to fail a student before. Until last month. For starters he simply couldnt get the skills down at all. In week 2 I hadnt been able to sleep unless the truck was parked. If I was not in the jump seat he fell apart. When I finally did try to go to sleep near the end of the second week I was kept awake all night by sounds I hope none of you ever hear.

This young man thought he was Ozzy Ozbourne, and he insisted on singing country music at the top of his lungs all night long. So imagine if you can Ozzy doing Randy Travis!!?? The next morning the company got him a new trainer. I hope he makes it, I just dont think I was capable of teaching him on the level he needed.

So the companies answer for me...I got a retired lounge singer for a student now!! You just cant make this stuff up. But he sounds good and drives better so it turned out well.

Training much like driving is what we make of it I think. The are good days and bad, good students and bad. In either case from time to time you just have to take a break.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to didntitellu For This Useful Post:
Freebird135 (05.18.2009)
Remove This Ad By Registering. Join Our Truck Forum and Trucking Community For Free. Sponsored Links:

  ^ Top   #57  
Old 05.18.2009
Greenacres0802's Avatar
Light Load Member
 
Last Seen: 2 Days Ago 03.42 PM
Member Since: Mar 2009
Location: Wysox, PA
Trucker? 0-1 Year
Age: 41
Posts: 76
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 11
Thanked: 5 Times
I am currently docked at home, waiting for the call to meet my trainer. I just left C1 at Indy and the topic of conversation at the smoking table was what kind of trainer we were going to get. Since we were getting flat rates, many thought the trainers would be driving them into the ground since the trainer would get the milage. Other issues were alot of what was said here. The last thing I need is someone screaming at me, grabbing the wheel etc. I know I have a lot to learn and want to learn it with someone who cares to show me the right thing.

Oh and it would help if he doesnt smell like $*%^ either.
Reply With Quote
  ^ Top   #58  
Old 05.19.2009
Light Load Member
 
Last Seen: 1 Week Ago 06.51 PM
Member Since: Feb 2008
Location: Colorado Springs
Trucker? 5 Years
Age: 29
Posts: 94
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 4
Thanked: 15 Times
I love to drive, thats one of the reasons I do this. At the end of the six weeks, each of my students drove a little less than I did. It wasn't always easy to hand over the drivers seat I sat in the passenger seat for the entire first week, you go through you 70 fast doing this, lol. I did all the night driving for the first few weeks then slowly introduced it to the students.

Greenacres, the best thing you can do is to actually listen and ask questions. Tell your trainer where you think you need the most work. Don't tell him/her that you are already good at something, just go out there and do it, your trainer will know that you are good at it by watching you.

Try to stay calm too. By the time you are on your own truck you'll be wondering why you were so worried about shifting(or whatever you were worried about)

My first student called me today and asked if I want to run teams with him. We are working the details out now. It should be a good fit.
Reply With Quote
  ^ Top   #59  
Old 05.20.2009
Greenacres0802's Avatar
Light Load Member
 
Last Seen: 2 Days Ago 03.42 PM
Member Since: Mar 2009
Location: Wysox, PA
Trucker? 0-1 Year
Age: 41
Posts: 76
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 11
Thanked: 5 Times
Oh I am sure my short commings will be evident. And as for the questions, they will be multiple to say the least. C1 got me my CDL, not much more. We didnt even get an example of a drop & hook. So I hope my trainer is ready... I intend to be a sponge for the the entire time. Hopefully I will gain enough to feel confident on my own.
Reply With Quote
  ^ Top   #60  
Old 06.04.2009
Greenacres0802's Avatar
Light Load Member
 
Last Seen: 2 Days Ago 03.42 PM
Member Since: Mar 2009
Location: Wysox, PA
Trucker? 0-1 Year
Age: 41
Posts: 76
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 11
Thanked: 5 Times
I have the best trainer in the industry and could not be happier. Finally something is going my way....
Reply With Quote
Reply

Truckers' Trucking Forum/Message Board


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Trucker Forum Replies Last Post
Are Sacramento Schools Forcing Islam On Students? Big Duker Politics 40 03.10.2009 05.12 AM


.


vBulletin Forum Software, Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
Copyright © TheTruckersReport.com - Trucking Forum & Message Board - Truck Driver Discussion - Truck Forum

Trucker Forum Disclaimer: All content, information and opinions (collectively, the "Material") presented on Our Trucker Forum Discussion Board at TheTruckersReport.com are those of the authors of posts and messages (collectively, the "participants") and not The Truckers Report. The Truckers Report does not guarantee the reliability, completeness, accuracy, timeliness or up-to-date-ness of the material presented on the Truck Driver Forum. The material is published "as is," and does not represent the official views and opinions of The Truckers Report or any company. Any reliance upon the Material presented on these forums shall be at User's own risk. The Truckers Report does not review the substance of the content posted by users on these forums and is therefore not responsible for any of such content. The Truckers Forum merely provides a space for its users to express and exchange their own opinions. Privacy Statement.


Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO