US mail contractors

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Graymist, Jun 18, 2009.

  1. Kazoo

    Kazoo Bobtail Member

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    Anyone have any recent information on B & B Trucking out of Kalamazoo, MI?

    I've seen some old posts from a few years ago but was hoping for some current information.

    Thanks ahead of time for any info.
     
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  3. Ttypemike

    Ttypemike Bobtail Member

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    Yeah, they are okay. It's an union operation. The complaints I've heard are it's hard to get good dedicated runs, and they'll call you in for a couple hours work. It's a legit company though, they came in and took our contracts and my job. That's how I worked for Trojan for a month! Haha I'd give it a shot if you need work.
     
  4. Acer

    Acer Bobtail Member

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    After having worked for the USPS as a contractor and driver for over 30 years, I gotta say some of the stuff you guys have come up with here is laughable. I always did tell my drivers when they were hired, it's like going back to high school, working there. Don't believe half of what you hear, and if you simply do your job and stay out of the gossip it'll be the easiest thing you do. And that's true. Being a driver for the USPS is one of the easiest jobs in the world. The labor board sets the rate you receive according to your area and the company is obligated to pay you that. This is good and bad for the drivers. Most see it as great, I get top dollar out the gate. But the way the USPS structures contracts, yes you are paid top dollar as soon as you sign on, but there is nothing in there for raises, except when the wage determination goes up. What i'm getting at is, if you're there for 20 years and someone is hired last week, you make the same. This is unfair to the long term driver and encourages laziness and a sense of self entitlement for the new driver since, they are already at the top ... why bust my butt when I can do just enough to not get fired and i'm on easy street. Sadly this is a lot of peoples thinking anymore.

    As not to ramble on, working for honest contractors of the USPS is great, but others are right, there are a lot who skim and undercut their drivers and that forces the pay down for everyone else (company wise). Working directly for the USPS as an MVS driver is even better yet.

    The USPS does not pay for overtime for drivers (independent drivers), and yes they only allow a certain amount of time for the driver to complete the run, so if the contract calls for 8 hours and the driver drags his feet and takes 10. The USPS only pays for 8 so of course the contractor is only going to want to pay the driver for 8. Most runs have ample amount of time to be completed.

    In short, driving for USPS is good. Wanting to be a contractor for them, is one of the worst business decisions anyone can make currently. It used to be a good opportunity, but in the last 10 years, it's gone so far down hill, if half the stuff they try and pull got mentioned you probably wouldn't even believe it's true.
     
  5. inktoxicated

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    ok im bringing up an old post here but I have a question for those who are employeed by a company contracted to usps. I work for Victory Packaging and this company just signed on with usps for 3 years to handle,process and deliver all the usps boxes and tape you can buy from the post office. I deliever bout 2-3 full loads of these boxes,enevelopes,tapes a day. same place everyday People go onto usps . com buy the materials, our warehouse processes all the orders and eventually its all palletized and loaded on truck. I do 3/ 45 miles shuttles from dayton nj to jersey city bulk mail center or go to the one in philly off rt 1. This new contract is just a peice of what my company does and only me and another driver run these usps loads. They did get the account nationally tho at all our other locations too. question is i only get paid 17 bux an hour ot after 40. i read that the contractors all most get paid the same rate from what usps decides? Am i just getting swindled and my employer is pockting the diffirence? or is my situation diffirent. I mean my trailer is loaded with united states mail. its just all packaging material. I dont see how its any diffirent from velti blackburn r&f and all the other guys delivering there too
     
  6. mailman59

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    I see this quite often with outside contractors hailing mail. The rate of pay for the mail hauling company drivers, Eagle Express , veltri, Foreman Etc is set by the post office and I believe the Jersey pay rate is around 22.00 an hour plus health and welfare which is around 4.75 for the first 40 hours. Thats what the drivers are making if they drive for a mail hauling company. However when the USPS contracts out to outside companys on a temporary need, Swift, Covenant Etc and the drivers are only getting 17.00 an hour. Probably because they are only hauling extra mail contracts which are not a full time contract and will disappear eventually. Willing to bet your company is getting reimbursed far more then the 17.00 an hour they are paying you and pocketing the rest. Just my opinion.
     
    inktoxicated Thanks this.
  7. fred1234

    fred1234 Light Load Member

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    milwaukee, wi is $21.83 plus $4.93 for the first 40 for star or linehaul routes. iron mountain, mi is $21.17 plus $4.83 for the first 40.
     
  8. organicfrmr

    organicfrmr Bobtail Member

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    I like working for a mail contractor.....steady, decent pay, same route, you get to know the folks where your route takes you. They are picky who gets hired on though, as you have to pass a federal background check, which for some won't jive. Been at it for awhile now and and will probably die here!!!LOL!
     
  9. Grumpyhound

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    I got hired to haul mail for a local contractor 5 months ago. And Ive only had my Class A for 6 months. I feel lucky to have gotten the job. 22.34 / hr, 46 hours a week.
    Easy money. Home every day. I make two back to back 75 mile runs for a total of 300 miles a day.
    I dont know what the health and welfare stuff mentioned above is because we just get the 22.34/hr and thats it.
    Ive been looking for another job with benefits, but hard to find something making a grand a week or more, without going otr. And its easy work.
    But we run no matter what the weather is. There were nights this winter where I was one of a very few trucks on the road at 2am in a blizzard lol
     
  10. mailman59

    mailman59 Light Load Member

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    As mentioned above, the health and welfare rate for mail haulers is in the neighborhood of 4.75 an hour for the first 40 per week. This is the money the postal service pays your company to cover the cost of your benefits, medical,dental,vision, long and short term disability etc. The company you work for is recieving this money from the postal service but apparently not passing it on to the drivers there ? And yes, starting out hauling freight at 30 cents a mile you can make a grand a week. If you drive 3,332 dispatched miles a week. Good luck with that.
     
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