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Driving the big-rigs in snow and ice

I know there must be threads on this and if someone knows where they are, I would love to read them.

I haven't even started school, but am hopeful as it looks as though I stand a very good chance of getting the funding. My thoughts are full of driving truck and all I have to learn. One thing I can't help but think of a lot is snow and ice driving as I live in the NW.

I would like to hear from you about the techniques to get across those passes, aside from the chains. If there is a storm predicted I am sure the trucks don't stop as I've been driving and seen them in "white out" conditions. I think mostly about going up steep grades or down. Is there anyone that doesn't

Ok, I don't really need an answer to that last part I've been saying "I can do this" so often that I have myself convinced I actually can

Thanks all, Denise in Sams Valley OR
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Use chains, go slow.

My first icy hill was back in '91, in Montana. We were driving in rain, on a wet road, when it got dark and started icing up REALLY quickly.
Some of the locals saw it coming, and were standing ready with their pickup trucks, charging a couple hundred bucks to provide just that little extra bit of traction needed to get to the top.
While we (my trainer and me) were waiting for someone to get to us, we both noticed a gravel shoulder, and edged the truck over until we were able to creep up the mountain without local help.
Huzzah!

Then we spent a couple days in a little Mom and Pop truckstop. It's been awhile, so I don't remember exactly where we were, but it was certainly something I won't entirely forget.

Going down... same way. Wear chains, go slow. If you find yourself losing control even then, find a place to pull over, cuz it ain't safe.
Naturally, you'll get a better feel for what's safe as you gain experience, but in the beginning, better to play it safe.

Of course, this doesn't take into account jerky dispatchers and customers.
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If you stay in this section, there is a post titled advise on winter driving that has some very good reading. It should be helpful.
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LOL, on your last line;)

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Use chains, go slow.

My first icy hill was back in '91, in Montana. We were driving in rain, on a wet road, when it got dark and started icing up REALLY quickly.
Some of the locals saw it coming, and were standing ready with their pickup trucks, charging a couple hundred bucks to provide just that little extra bit of traction needed to get to the top.
While we (my trainer and me) were waiting for someone to get to us, we both noticed a gravel shoulder, and edged the truck over until we were able to creep up the mountain without local help.
Huzzah!

Then we spent a couple days in a little Mom and Pop truckstop. It's been awhile, so I don't remember exactly where we were, but it was certainly something I won't entirely forget.

Going down... same way. Wear chains, go slow. If you find yourself losing control even then, find a place to pull over, cuz it ain't safe.
Naturally, you'll get a better feel for what's safe as you gain experience, but in the beginning, better to play it safe.

Of course, this doesn't take into account jerky dispatchers and customers.
Thanks so much, so basically, same as in a "little rig". I thought that might be the answer. Makes sense to me I've traveled most of the country, just me and my little dog I lost about 2 years ago. I went through a snow storm near Topeka. Barely made out the exit sign and boy did I ever, exit I mean. Also, that Motel 6 sign looked way inviting The next morning it was hail. Never saw such big hail. I actually called the office and told them I was not from here and could they tell me if it was safe to drive, lol! They said "easy does it, and if you're in trouble, just pull in and folks would be glad to help me". I ended up doing just that and spent the rest of the morning waiting for it to let up, in a little, mom and pop restaraunt. Nice people I got lucky

Denise
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If you stay in this section, there is a post titled advise on winter driving that has some very good reading. It should be helpful.
I will look it up! Denise
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The best advice i can give is that being a little nervous is a good thing. Don't be nervous to the point that the truck is driving you, instead of vice versa, but being a little nervous and staying on your toes even after driving 30 years will still keep you out of trouble nearly every day.

Don't ever drive beyond your means, if you are that scared then it probably isn't safe...park it. I've yet to chain my tires, and doubt that I ever will. I was always taught that chains are there to get you out of trouble, not in.
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Just dont overdrive the conditions or your experience. If its snowing to all beat, then take er slow or pull over for a bit till the conditions improve. I wouldve been one of them you wouldve seen driving in white out conditions. You have a good line of sight in a big rig and I would just drive according to how far I could see and depending on how much traffic. If it was a white out blizzard like the time at the indiana michigan border last winter on i94 the one that caused the 100 car pile -up, I had my fourways on and was only going between 35-40. I was only a mile behind the accident when it happened and if I was going any faster then who knows what wouldve happened. But just take it easy especially on mountain passes just go real slow. Trust me there will be other rigs out there and just keep pace with them if your are comfortable with their speed.
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Yep, and no jerky erratic movements, try not to use the brakes if you don't have to, and even slow down so that you won't have to if something happens ahead of you..

Ummm what else.. oh yeah, you have weight behind you, so if you lose traction just let off, straighten the wheel and let that trailer weight push you across the slick part until you get traction again.. don't use your engine brake it can cause your wheels to lock up as well especially when you are empty or light on the drives.

Load slightly heavy on the drives, if you don't have to pass a scale you can also move your fifth wheel all the way forward and get more weight on your steers, just watch out because most tires arent rated for much higher than 12k or something like that.

Keep a safe distance from everything in front of you, if that trailer starts coming sideways about the only thing that will help is speeding up slightly if you can.. which you cant if there is something blocking your path.. you can mess with the trailer brake as well but i wouldnt advise it starting out you will likely make it worse.
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I was backed into the dock at Ralston Purina near Flagstaff, with a nice view of I-40, I had already decided to call it a night due to road conditions, so was getting all my paperwork done in the cab.
when a guy pulling a set of doubles came over the hill, I was thinking he was going a bit fast for the conditions, and as if on cue, he lost it. Fortunately, he got out of the truck ok, but he wasn't going anywhere for a bit.
He had to leave his jackknifed doubles in the ditch for the night.
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Don't ever drive beyond your means, if you are that scared then it probably isn't safe...park it. I've yet to chain my tires, and doubt that I ever will. I was always taught that chains are there to get you out of trouble, not in.[/quote]

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