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- 07.23.2012 #181Medium Load Member
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There were some companies like transam that were started by drivers, but once johnny j. Handed transam off to greedy scum like mcelliot & bledsoe, that changes. There are still some good driver-oriented companies like the one i now drive for, but those places are far & few between these days.
- 07.30.2012 #182Banned or Retired
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I might buy a truck, but I refuse to lease...
- 08.03.2012 #183Crusty Rifleman
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I have bought one truck on a lease it was an older truck 1995 fld with a 48 inch flat top sleeper I ran ot over the road it had over a million and 1/2 miles on it when it met its end (wrong way driver on the freeway) next truck was thure a leasing company(2005 9400 I) it is paid off and sitting at home , I am now in another lease purchase in an older (2004 ) classic doable workable lease purchase are out here but there are few and far between and they are mostly not your "dream truck" and you will pay more for the truck then it is worth on the open market in most case's , off hand I would say at lest 95% of the lease purchase's out here are rip off scam's.
Find out how many (% wise) end up owning that lease truck from that company that a good place to start ,,If they will not tell you Don't walk away RUN!!! or bend over and grab some grease since they are not going to use any on that deal.
Read the contract think about it use your head ,,think your going to get a "new " truck from a lease contract ? it might be 3% that ever get that truck, if that ,, No I am not really smart but I do have some friends that have been at this a very long time that help me out and my wife is good at running the numbers .
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- 08.14.2012 #184Light Load Member
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Lease Purchase or Leach Purchase?
These are the oldest trucking tricks in the books. I think NAVL or Midwestern Dist. started some of these "Dollar Truck Deals" in the 1970's.
Most i have seen are already worn out trucks ready for export or the scrapyards. You have to be an Attorney and an Accountant to understand the fine printed language that gets smaller and smaller the longer you read.
Save your money and pay cash for a brand new truck and don't Tote the Note.
A wise man once said "If you can't pay cash for it, you can't afford it".
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- 08.18.2012 #185Trucker Forum STAFF
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Escrow protections under the federal truth-in-leasing regulations
As they say, knowledge is power. The best way to leverage your power with motor carriers is to understand the federal truth-in-leasing regulations. They can help you avoid getting into a bad lease or help you decide whether you are being treated fairly by your current carrier.
The federal truth-in-leasing regulations found in 49 CFR 376 establish specific rules that govern the owner-operator/motor carrier relationship. These rules were enacted in 1979, yet only in 1996 were individual drivers given the right to enforce the requirements of the regulations directly in federal court.
Since Congress granted a private right of action, OOIDA has filed numerous class action lawsuits to develop the law protecting driver rights under these regulations. OOIDA has achieved notable success in these cases regarding the protection of owner-operator funds collected from drivers for various escrow accounts required by the motor carrier through the leasing agreement.
For starters, you should know what the regulations require. The escrow provisions of the leasing regulations are relatively straightforward:
- The lease must specify the amount of any escrow fund or performance bond to be established with the owner-operator’s money.
- The lease must also identify what specific items or repairs can be paid for with escrow funds.
- The lease must specify how the motor carrier will inform you of every transaction affecting your escrow. Carriers must either clearly indicate on your settlement sheet the amount and description of each escrow deduction or addition or provide a separate monthly accounting of all escrow transactions.
- In addition to this periodic accounting requirement, you can demand an accounting of escrow transactions at any time. If you don’t know what is going on, you should exercise this right in order to keep your carrier honest.
- The motor carrier is also required to pay you interest on your escrow funds. To be specific, the interest must be at least equal to the average yield or equivalent coupon issue yield on the 91-day, 13-week Treasury bill as established in the weekly auction by the U.S. Treasury. The current interest rate can usually be found in the business section of your newspaper.
- Finally, and perhaps most importantly, the regulations require that the carrier return your escrow funds to you within 45 days from the date the lease is terminated. There are no exceptions to this rule.
more here >> Escrow protections under the federal truth-in-leasing regulations
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- 08.18.2012 #186Light Load Member
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ref: amscontr - midwestern dist
yeah i got suckered on that $1 down deal... and guess what ? the feds shut him down
so he moved from ft scott ks and opened up shop in joplin mo... PRIME (same guy)
tell me one person successfull at prime lease purchase.... waiting....
to improve the walk away rate, they simply keep cutting the road speed back, you'll never pay it off
- 08.20.2012 #187Bobtail Member
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I know exactly what you talking bout bout living out on the road with advances. It be nice to get ahead to have money in the bank so you live off of your income.
- 08.24.2012 #188Bobtail Member
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DJ-You think they want you to make Big Money when its their truck your leasing?Think about it
- 08.26.2012 #189Medium Load Member
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On these lease purchase programs, they pay for any repairs, right? Since you don't own the truck, they do, they pay for the repairs, right? That should be built into the cost of the lease.
An non-profit youth group I drove for the past couple of summers leases a couple of trucks (pulling their own trailers), and it was somewhere around $480 a week, plus a small mileage fee.
Another company I drove for had some trucks they leased from Ryder, and they pay all the repairs as well, since it's built into the cost of the lease.
Are you telling me that these companies that do lease-purchases make the driver pay the repairs?
- 09.16.2012 #190Light Load Member
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This sounds very much like the predatory lending practices that led to the financial crisis in this country. When these companies lead you to believe you are entering into a mutually beneficial program and then turn the tables on you they are being predatory lenders. You would think there would be incentive for the company to make sure you are successful and for the driver to be motivated to make the company successful. You can say buyer beware but the reality is you believe you are entering into a sort of partnership when really the company is only looking to take advantage of the driver just because they can. All of these programs should be looked into and either brought to an end or corrected so that drivers are not left holding the bag for a corporation.
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