Oversize in Ohio

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  1. Naptown

    Naptown Road Train Member

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    I rarely haul oversize material, and could use some clarification on the night restrictions in Ohio. Most of the information I have found deals with overweight/overwidth loads and superloads, none of which apply to me.

    Specifically, I do an intercompany relay from Indianapolis to Pittsburgh. I meet the Pittsburgh driver in Columbus, we swap trailers, and I return to Indy. Last night my return load had some long beams on it, giving me a total length of 54' with a 6' overhang. My question is am I bound by the operating time restrictions? Judging from this information on the ODOT website, I am.

    OPERATING TIME: One-half hour before sunrise to one-half hour after sunset, including weekends up to 12′ wide. Loads over 12′ wide are permitted until 3:00 PM on Friday, Saturday and Sunday, and on Fridays from April 1 through November 30. Overweight only and not over 53′ trailer and load length can have continuous travel provided they can keep up with traffic.

    But I also found this, which leads to my confusion.

    Overlength vehicles/loads and loads with a rear overhang of 4′ or more shall display a single flag at the extreme rear if the over length or projecting part is two feet wide or less, and two flags if wider than 2 feet to indicate, located to indicate the maximum width. Overhang should be lighted at night.

    I was loaded late so I didn't arrive in Columbus until almost 6 am. By the time I pretripped the trailer, checked the securement, and took my 30 min. break it was daylight, so I didn't have to worry either way. However, I normally arrive in Columbus around midnight, and so I need to know for the next time I'm in this situation.
     
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  3. macmanboomer

    macmanboomer Light Load Member

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    Someone else may provide better info but from my knowledge & the info you posted, 48' trailer they'll allow you 4' overhang without a permit, 53' trailer NO overhang without permit. Looks like you have 48' with 6' overhang so you should have a permit which will specify your hours of operation. Probably this load would not have night time movement.

    I could be wrong, I was wrong that one time before when I thought I was wrong but I wasn't........ 😀
     
  4. MrEd

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    A lot of guys with a 53 ft trlr would just have the foot extra hang off the front. Provided there is plenty of clearance between the cab or headache rack and the load. With no rear overhang they wouldn't worry about permits. With a 48 footer, you'd still have too much overhang on the rear. At any rate, if the load requires permits, the permit will have travel time restrictions. If it doesn't require a permit, then your logbook is your only travel time restriction. You need to get the permit requirement verified. Getting caught operating an oversize load without a valid permit can get very expensive in some States. In Louisiana it's $100.00, plus the cost of a permit.
     
  5. macmanboomer

    macmanboomer Light Load Member

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    We've had a guy get in trouble in OH for front overhang on a 53'. Our permit guy says OH is the only state he knows of who enforces front overhang.
     
  6. Naptown

    Naptown Road Train Member

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    I've got blanket permits for Indiana and Ohio. I'll have to doublecheck them to see exactly what they say in this regard. All of our trailers have bulkheads, so no overhanging the front.

    One of the things that aggravates me about this run is that I have no control over the load inbound from Pittsburgh. This is the first time that I've run into this particular problem, but I've had problems with axle weights before. Our trailers have sliding tandems so it's usually an easy fix. It's been close a couple of times though when it was especially tail heavy. The Pittsburgh driver isn't holding up his end and helping make sure things are legal. I just don't want to be stuck in the middle of the night with an illegal load and limited options for making it right.
     
  7. The Admiral

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    I would say you needed a permit and the permit would have notations as to whether you can travel at night or not. I doubt if you could travel at night with that much overhang. Also there is a curfew in Columbus plus you have to use 270, no travel through town. I question if a blanket permit would cover that move. And do not forget to have the current provision sheet with the permit.
     
  8. Loaderlou

    Loaderlou Medium Load Member

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    The way I'm understanding the restrictions you posted is your load applies to the second section of the rule. I would use two flags and the lights required and keep up with the traffic. I'm from the Long Island Metro NY area, I wish our laws (way too many and confusing) would read more in layman terms. In any event, that's how I understand it. Good luck and be careful
     
  9. xsetra

    xsetra Road Train Member

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    Naptown Thanks this.
  10. skateboardman

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    steel beams are excepted in many states fro permits as long as they don't exceed a certain overall lengths , the overhang just has to be flagged. I once took steel beams from philly port to west texas. only permitted in 2 states, Maryland and one other. I think va or nc and I was wat 10 foot overhang on the rear n a 48 foot trailer

    your load would at least need to be flagged as its over 4 foot overhang, is the trailer 48 or 53 foot ? makes a difference
     
  11. BROKENSPROKET

    BROKENSPROKET Medium Load Member

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    I don't know about Ohio. The states that I run OS in prohibit night time travel for WIDE loads(unless you have all the required flashing amber lights). I can still run LONG loads with flags, banners and a red magnetic light on the back of the steel. I have had to bungee one on the end of 60' rebar more than a few times.
     
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