Is this properly secured?

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  1. fluffingston

    fluffingston Bobtail Member

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    Hey guys is this load properly secured? I noticed that some of the pipes have no straps on them. they are just sandwiched in. The reason I ask is because just down the road i saw the company that I am thinking about working for hauling the same pipes rigged up in the same manner. The job told me that they would train me. I was just wondering if I'm getting myself in to a mess if they teach securement like this. I though in this case that every pipe should have a strap. Thanks for any input.
     

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  3. MJ1657

    MJ1657 Road Train Member

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    Are there cables or chains running lengthwise over the top of the pipe from the front of the trailer to the back?
     
  4. fluffingston

    fluffingston Bobtail Member

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    Yes it has a wire going from front to back.
     
  5. brsims

    brsims Road Train Member

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    In my opinion, no.

    First, that is a load of concrete pipe on a steel trailer with tandem axles. Looks overweight to me. Being that it is hooked to a daycab, I'm thinking that is a local company that never sees a scale, so runs overweight all the time. The day they get caught is the day they shut down, because the fines will be absolutely killer financially.

    Second, there is no side to side securement on each tube. A hard turn, a bump at just the wrong time, and you've got concrete pipe all over the place. I don't see any straps or chains through the eyes of most of those pipes. They could bounce up, or slide out the side at any time. Would I move it from a loading point to a securement point like this? Sure, being extremely careful and slow. Would I move it down a public road like this? Aw heck NO!

    Looks like either a lazy local driver (of which there are too many in my opinion as a local driver) or a company owner who is willing to take too many chances to get "one more load".
     
  6. MJ1657

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    Ill take a look in my book tonight if someone doesn't have an answer before that.

    I believe it is OK the way they have it. Do they have blocking on each end?

    I haul some concrete pipe during the summer. I secure each piece but they are bigger pipes.
     
  7. cnsper

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    There is only one maybe that I see and that is in the middle of the trailer. Looks to be more than 10 feet between chains. You can see the cables lengthwise if you blow the photo up.

    The other thing that I would have done is run that cable under that single top pipe and then just ran a chain through that to secure it along with another chain in the middle. I always over secure so others will be different. But that is just me.

    If you look at this load, I have 6 chains plus the 2 cables securing it. Top and bottom pipes at both ends get a chain each. Then there are 2 chains through the top pipes only in the middle of the load.

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    Normally, with that load in your photo, I would have had them put 8 on bottom and 7 on top in the middle of the trailer. This way each layer will be facing the same direction. Quicker load and unload without having to alternate the pipes like they did in your photo. If you notice, on my load, all the bell ends are on the same side for each layer.

    Go for it, you will love 18"+ pipe and hate 12" pipe.... LOL
     
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    cnsper Road Train Member

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    You might want to check the regs. That load is ok but not the way I would do it.. You are looking at about 30k worth of weight on that pipe. Scale or not, DOT officers do sit near these places just waiting to see something out of whack.
     
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  9. brsims

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    Is why is my opinion, and not absolute fact. Load doesn't look secure to me, but on the other hand I don't haul concrete pipe (yet!). So I looked at it like I would a set of suicide coils stacked close like that. I do know those concrete pipes are heavy as heck, and I'd want to be absolutely sure that those buggers didn't get all excited on me.

    Learn something new every day, I always say.

    Read through the regs as posted above. All I can say is wowie wow! Hauling that stuff looks like some pretty specialized work. Hope y'all get paid pretty good. Even after reading the regs, still doesn't look safe to me. I'll stick with steel, thanks. I KNOW how to secure that stuff!
     
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  10. cnsper

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    I am looking at a blown up photo and it looks like there is a welded pipe structure at the front of the trailer and, hard to tell, a pipe unloader at the rear of the trailer. If that is the case then yes this load is totally legal as that eliminates the need for blocking. I would put another chain in the middle pulling forward just for my comfort.

    As for the pipe itself, unless you are under 18" diameter the pipe stays put. All the pipes MUST be touching for this to work though. Now you get to pipe under 18" or 15" and smaller that pipe will try to go for a walkabout. You have to use vboards and straps to keep those darn things in place.
     
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