What do you ask your brokers? This is what I ask:

[revelation1911]

My guess is you don't actually believe the stuff you type. I'll let you in on a few little secrets.....Most brokers aren't paid until the load has been delivered. If I broker out 50 loads this week and each pay $1k and everyone want's quickpay at say 1.5% I'm writing $48,000+ worth of checks and I may not be paid for 10-30 days.

What you are ignoring is the 1.5% is added to what ever percent the broker is making which runs from my research at 20-60% so in reality the broker is making 12,000 or more. Not a bad haul for doing nothing but paying someone quick. You write like the broker is getting just 1500.00 What BS

And as far as the typical story "the load paid $10,000 and the broker only paid me $400" B.S. If the rate isn't what you want DON'T HAUL IT!!!! Put on your big boy panties and admit you are your biggest problem. I swear this is a country of crybabies anymore, when did we become so infatuated with what someone else has. If you took the load for $400 then aparently you thought you could make a profit at that. Stop worrying about how much someone else made and run your own railroad. I know for a fact that I've loaded beside drivers that got a better rate than I did on the same load, but I've been on the other side of that fence also.

Here again you twist facts to fit your story I said 1,100.00 and in fact the load was triple brokered and I saw the credit card charge. Double and triple brokering is unecthical and dishonest, especially when you ask the borker if it's double brokerd. I always ask if a load is double brokered if i think it is.
The incident I mention is within six months of getting my authority.
You seem infatuated with panties do you like wearing them??

If these guys put as much effort into their own business as they do everyone else's they'd be much better off. And before anyone decides to inform me I don't know what I'm talking about, my family has been in the trucking business since the 40's. I've been the shipper, the broker and the trucker.

I put enough effort in mine to know when I'm being taken advantage of and avoid it. Speaking of family business's it always seems that the second and following generations run them into the ground and change the original operating principals of the business. Look at wally world when old man sam was alive it was totally different. So In a family business I gauge it by the generation I'm dealing with.

If you insist the grass is greener on either side by all means try it. Too many arm chair quarterbacks on here.

I am building a buseness model on this particular venture now.
And as I have noticed you try and devert attention fom the original question
WHY ARE BROKERS ENTITLED TO CREDIT???
What do they do that makes them think they are worth more than the actcual worker doing the work? In over half the loads I haul they don't even know what they are moving till I ask. Their answer it's a legal load.

The only thing these brokers have done correctly is by some twist of fate taken away most O/O's balls, fooling them into thinking they are the most imposrtant part of the equation.

[revelation1911]

Which brings us around to, you won't get anything if you don't ask right? I would think more often than not these brokers would rather balk though.

Anytime I talk with a new broker or sometimes a old one I ask:
"How do you pay?" They always say something like 21-30 days, but generally quicker.
I say: " I don't do thirty days any other options?"
some will say they have quick pay and explain it.
Which if I'm still not impressed I ask them to hold this load for 5min. till I check to see if it isn't the one I see double posted by another broker? That will sometimes bring them to my idea of payment arrangements I like.

[Jfaulk99]

What you are ignoring is the 1.5% is added to what ever percent the broker is making which runs from my research at 20-60% so in reality the broker is making 12,000 or more. Not a bad haul for doing nothing but paying someone quick. You write like the broker is getting just 1500.00 What BS

Still wondering why your driving instead of brokering loads since you have it all figured out.

Here again you twist facts to fit your story I said 1,100.00 and in fact the load was triple brokered and I saw the credit card charge. Double and triple brokering is unecthical and dishonest, especially when you ask the borker if it's double brokerd. I always ask if a load is double brokered if i think it is.
The incident I mention is within six months of getting my authority.
You seem infatuated with panties do you like wearing them??

Who gives a #### if it's been brokered 50 times? As long as the load is something you want to haul and you like the rate who cares? Here's my point, they're not forcing you to take the load! If there has been too many hands in the cookie jar and the rate is crap DON'T TAKE IT!!!!!!!!! Your acting like they're stealing from you.

I put enough effort in mine to know when I'm being taken advantage of and avoid it. Speaking of family business's it always seems that the second and following generations run them into the ground and change the original operating principals of the business. Look at wally world when old man sam was alive it was totally different. So In a family business I gauge it by the generation I'm dealing with.

Ha, I'll be sure to watch out for that. Wal-Mart is a good example, they're practically bankrupt now after Sam died.

I am building a buseness model on this particular venture now.
And as I have noticed you try and devert attention fom the original question
WHY ARE BROKERS ENTITLED TO CREDIT???
What do they do that makes them think they are worth more than the actcual worker doing the work? In over half the loads I haul they don't even know what they are moving till I ask. Their answer it's a legal load.

The only thing these brokers have done correctly is by some twist of fate taken away most O/O's balls, fooling them into thinking they are the most imposrtant part of the equation.

Why are you even worried about brokers? A guy like you can probably walk into a shipper like US Steel and demand they allow you to haul direct. I mean I know these shippers are just dying to deal with 200,000+ different truck drivers, as long as they ask "how they're doing" on the phone when they answer.

And speaking of diverting attention, please answer my question. Why haven't you parked your truck and became a broker if that's where all the easy money is?