Will a flat trailer tire make the air pressure on a truck's brakes slow to build up?

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  1. expedite_it

    expedite_it Road Train Member

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    I have a 2014 Freightliner Cascadia tractor. My air pressure on my brakes is very slow to build up right now. My air pressure on my brakes will stay at around 90 psi until I start driving it or do a high idle. When I do a high idle, the air pressure will build up to the normal 120 psi after about 15 minutes. Usually the air pressure on my brakes will go up to 120 psi within two or three minutes even at 600 rpm idle. I have a flat tire on one of my trailer tires. The flat trailer tire I have is so loose that it just hangs loosely on the rim. The first mechanic that I talked to told me that the air brakes and the air pressure on the tires are connected. The first mechanic that I talked to told me that if a person gets a flat trailer tire, the air pressure lost from the tires will also pull air out of the brake system. The mechanic that actually inspected my flat trailer tire told me something that implied that a flat trailer tire will not cause the air brake system to lose air pressure.

    Are the trailer tires and the trailer brakes connected like this?


    Will a flat trailer tire make the air pressure on a truck's brakes slow to build up?
     
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  3. GrapeApe

    GrapeApe Road Train Member

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    Do you have a tiring airing system on your trailer? Does it still build slow with no trailer? Just leave the trailer brakes set so no air is going to the trailer and see if it does the same thing.
     
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  4. chopper103in

    chopper103in Road Train Member

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    maybe if the trailer has the automatic tire inflation system
     
  5. expedite_it

    expedite_it Road Train Member

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    GrapeApe, I don't know what this question means: "Do you have a tiring airing system on your trailer?" I don't know what a tiring airing system is.
    Your suggestion that I just pull the red valve & see if it still leaks is an excellent idea. I will do that right now.
     
  6. bigkev1115

    bigkev1115 Road Train Member

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    The air brake system has nothing to do with air in the trailer tires unless the trailer is equipped with a tire inflator system. Another reason that may take your air pressure a little while longer to build up is how many air bags on your truck and trailer that needs to be aired up.
     
  7. jason6541

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    only way they are connected is if trl has the psi system, which has a light on front corner of trl and has air lines going to each tires valve stem out of the center hub oil/grease cap. that is the only thing that would use air from tractor for tire psi?. i'm betting you have other issues. like post before leave trl brakes set then see how long it takes to build psi.
     
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  8. expedite_it

    expedite_it Road Train Member

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    I just pulled the red valve, and the air pressure is building up quickly like it normally always did before today. That tells me that the air leak is on the trailer, but that does not tell me whether or not a flat trailer tire will make the air pressure on the brakes slow to build up. The air leak could be from one of the trailer air bags rather than from the trailer tire.
     
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    Um, you might want to get that tire fixed before anything else.
     
  10. GrapeApe

    GrapeApe Road Train Member

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    Do you have hoses going from the trailer tire valve stems to the hub caps? If so, you have a tire inflation system that uses trailer air to maintain tire pressure. If you have one, a tire off the bead is a big air leak. If you don't have an inflation system, the tire is not your air issue, but still get it fixed before you run.
     
  11. BrenYoda883

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    I agree with Semi Retired. . If you have a flat you need to get that fixed.. also, it is possible to a flat tire and a leak in an air bag... heck, I once came across a trailer that had a flat tire, leaking air bag and a crappy glad hand seal... and it was a loaded trailer that a driver dropped at a drop yard... no way I was pulling that trailer until the tire and air bag were fixed.. the glad hand seal I could take care of myself...
     
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