Let me understand this right quick. You and your wife, and the trainer where on the truck when the load was accepted.........Right. Then he was the 1st driver and you guys where the second seat drivers........Then that would make you 3 a team from where I sit. Ok now if one member in that team quits or in your case 2 members on the team quits. Technicaly thats load abandonment regardless of who accepted the load. I hate to be the bearer of that bad news but it sounds like in your next interviews with new companies that you guys got some explaining to do. Rather than to not mention it and it just shows up on your dat.

Yeah, I agree.You quit under a load.Plain and simple.

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quitting under a load is the worse thing you can do. it's like a death sentence.

The trainer is responsible for the load. As a trainee you are under the ausposes of the trainer. This company pulled a foul.

Dude they can not report you as a quit under dispatch if you were in training. You need to get in control of you DAC report and call someone cause Gainey will report things that are not true on you like that. You are allowed to make statements on your DAC also just write a letter disputing thier claim BE SURE TO STATE IN IT YOU WERE TRAINING. The trainer is responsible for that truck and cargo not you it was his fault if the load was late. It was dispatched to him also.

As for Gainey I live in Sommerset KY and they own a company down here called SuperService. There is no local taxi service here. I pick up drivers all the time hitch hiking to the bus stop approx 30 miles from thier terminal in London KY. I don't doubt anything you say about them because I have seen with my own eyes how they will turn a driver out without any money or a ride home even if they do the right thing and bring the equipment back....even if they have money is does them no good without a ride out of sommerset cause like I said no taxi service here.

Being "under training" doesn't matter. The truck was under load, they were assigned to the truck (regardless of the fact they were with a trainer) The keyword here is TRAIN: they were being TRAINED. They were still responsible for delivering the load A company that reads these DAC reports are going to give exactly how much weight to their side of the story?
A company is responsible only to get the drivers back to their home terminal and no further.

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You may be a moderator of this forum but your wrong on this one. If that guy was under training he is not responsible for that load because even if he quits there is still a driver under it who is responsible. It was a bush league move to Dac him and his wife for it. That company is a bottom feeder and we both know it. Training students quit all the time while thier trainer is dispatched and that is the only person I know to get DACed for it. As a trainee you are under the auspices of the trainer. Google the term auspices of the trainer or call USIS if you need help with it. If you don't understand what that term means in this industry you shouldn't be a moderator in this forum. The trainee needs to use that exact term when talking with USIS they will clear you and if you are an OOIDA member call in they can handle it for you...I would have my wife make a complaint through the EEOC on them because they didn't meet her Gender needs by stopping for showers or provide a repectable work center by making her train with men and sleeping in the cab with them.

As far as the Super Service goes they do it to be nasty. Never said they did anything illegal. There are bout 100 drivers in my community who will not ever work there or for the parent company knowingly because of that policy, that 100 local drivers could fill all thier truck tommorow. If you #### on enough people word gets out on you. Went home today saw 2 drivers walking out of the terminal with bags....will be a long walk approx 30 miles to bus station.

I don't believe half of what I read in here because it is same drivers posting about 20 different companies. I intend to make a post in here about Nationwide Transportation later this week when I recieve some information from OOIDA and NE dept of labor about the company with a final paycheck of $1800 that is overdue by three months. I intend to scan it along with the company policy of fining drivers up $600 for BS reasons that a state department of labor found illegal and underhanded. They collected my money for me and fined the company an amount I will not know until I recieve the paperwork. They are a Gainey company too...didn't know it until I was there for a couple of months...that whole group is bottom feeders.

Gainey is not all that bad. You only log pretrip, postrip, and fuel.

I didn't have any many details to pass along to them But if they were with a trainer they agree with me....I had the same thing attempted to be pulled on me I know firtst hand Central Refrigerated tried to do me the same way as long as your with a TRAINER the student can not be charged with quit under dispatch, late loads, unauthorized use of company equipment, or abandoning the truck cause it is not thier responsibility it is the traines the are oprating under auspices of the trainer. Gainey negelected to report they were with a trainer or that guy is lnot telling the truth here is what OOIDA e-mailed me and i will be happy to forward it to anyone that would like to read it.

OOIDA response to my question of quit under dispatch while training:


You mentioned how you had a similar situation but were working with a
trainer. If the couple individually was with a separate trainer, I
agree
with you that their situation was analogous with yours.

As you are aware, we have sued DAC regarding their system being used by
motor carriers to "black-ball" drivers who didn't "toe the line."
During the
trial, the judge made decisions that effected the jury verdict
negatively
from our viewpoint. We are currently appealing to the appellate court
his
trial decisions. Hopefully, we're able to reverse the judges decisions.

Without a doubt, the reporting criteria DAC allows member motor
carriers to
use is vague enough that it's easily manipulated to smear a honest
driver.
What is amazing is that decent motor carriers would put any stock in a
negative DAC report.

Regards,

Joe Rajkovacz
Regulatory Affairs Specialist
Executive
Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Assn., Inc

Anytime a driver quits under load, whether he is in training or not, he is responsible for that load from the point of pick-up to the point of delivery. But I AGREE that it was wrong to DAC them. I think the entire process needs to be re-worked. There are enough BAD drivers out there, and there needs to be a repository of information on them.

Just because you know of only one student who was "DAC'd" for ABANDONING A LOAD, doesn't mean that there aren't more. There are several people on this board who have complained about this on this forum. It doesn't mean it is right though.
Now, I did "google" 'auspices of the trainer' ([LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. ) and I looked at the first 6 pages of links (which is MUCH further than the average person would look for information) and all I found was pages of information on Sports, with one link referencing BUS DRIVING. There were no references to Commercial Truck Driver Training, sorry.
And please do not assume that you know who should or should not be a moderator on this forum. With only 11 posts since 2005, you haven't enough participation to make that assumption.

The ONLY thing USIS will do is add a "note" to the reference in the file, they won't remove derogatory information that is true (or cannot be proven false). Any prospective employer will still see Gainey's claims, and many times the word of a former employer holds more weight than the explanation the driver offers. And DON'T expect OOIDA to do a thing either. For example: a year ago I discovered that "someone" had reported to USIS that I was "cited" in the State of Arizona for "Operating a Commercial Vehicle With-In Four Hours of Consuming Alcohol" TOTALLY UNTRUE and fabricated. Arizona had NO RECORD of me getting a citation in their State; EVER. USIS however, claimed they got this information from the "Arizona Administrator of Courts", an officially sounding position that doesn't exist in the State of Arizona.
OOIDA told me that basically there was nothing they could do for me....unless I joined their "Class Action" lawsuit. What a FREEKIN JOKE. We see how well their "Class Action" benefited drivers! They even told me that there WASN'T ANYTHING that I could do myself, that "Private Right to Action" would be fruitless and unproductive. (I have since let my OOIDA Membership lapse and will NEVER join them again, they are ineffectual.)

What I did?? I wrote USIS a letter, demanding they REMOVE the faulty information with-in 30 days and send me verification they had done so, and sent it via Certified U.S. Mail.
With-in 30 days I had that verification.
Here is the point: USIS will ONLY remove information that they cannot prove is TRUE, but they WILL NOT remove any information they COULD prove to be true, or information that CANNOT be proven UNTRUE.

You don't have to tell me anything about Gainey or Super Service. I live in Grand Rapids and I see their "drivers" all the time. I have talked to plenty of them and have even recruited some of them away to work for other companies....in the past.


If I didn't believe about 1/2 of what I was reading, I would find another book to read.

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