O/O's: My experience with Double Coin Tires and fuel mileage

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by twolane, Dec 19, 2010.

  1. Blackjack

    Blackjack Light Load Member

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    How does a tire know how many state lines you've crossed?

    I'm not trying to be a smart ###. I'm really wondering what they mean.
     
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  3. king Q

    king Q Road Train Member

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    A tire can't be designed to cater for all needs at the same time.There are characteristics that are worlds apart.With a long haul tire it is expected that there will do more revolutions at higher ave speeds to every stop start or scrub then a tire used on a garbage truck.A long haul tire will need better heat dissipation ability then a construction truck.The construction truck will need a sidewall that is more resistant to damage then the long haul tire.A regional tire is one that is a bit of a blend.Not as good as the specialist tire for a specific use but intended for some local and some OTR long haul use.

    This is what I think anyway.
     
  4. G/MAN

    G/MAN Road Train Member

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    If a tire is used off road then it probably would be a good idea to have more plies in the sidewalls. I met a guy once who used to work for one of the major tire manufacturer's. He told me that the biggest enemy of tire wear was heat. According to him it is better to have fewer plies on a sidewall for a road tire to help dispel the heat. The thicker the sidewall the more the tire will hold heat and fail due to heat build up.
     
  5. Krooser

    Krooser Road Train Member

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    If you blow one you will have hard time finding a direct replacement... Double Coin dealers aren't on every street corner.

    If you buy a quality name brand tire you will get a good trade when you are ready for new tires... my retreader won't pay a penny for a Double Coin casing but he will take it in trade and sell it, retreaded, as a B grade tire.

    I had a few Double Coin tires on a KW I bought 9 years ago... they worked OK but it was a single axle straight job so the tires didn't get worked very hard.
     
  6. twolane

    twolane Medium Load Member

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    I'm really glad for this discussion,,,thanks all.

    When I was a kid the only motorcycles worth having were BSA, Triumph, Norton and when you could get one to start,,,Harley. Then came the Honda 50. What a joke that was. I remember the 1st. Honda civic car. I laughed so hard my sides hurt. "Japanese junk" is what we called anything from Japan. Now look at us. The best most cutting-edge affordable products we have now are made in Japan! Our unions and greedy companies sent our jobs overseas. It makes me mad as hell too when almost every thing I haul, see in a store, etc. is made in China! It just is, what it is.
    As far as the patriot thing goes, I'm a nam-era vet that did a deal in a south american jungle, and many years later did 12 months in Iraq between 9,apr.08 & 12, apr,09 supporting our military from a combat outpost. Both my kids are middle east combat vets as well. Daughter is a Navy flight surgeon who did a tour in Afghanistan with a Marine harrier squadron. Sons an Army Light Infantry platoon sergeant that did 15 months in Iraq, and 12 in Afghanistan.

    I guess my point here is that being a patriot has nothing to do with this conversation IMO. The fact that I can afford any tires I want really has nothing to do with it either. I'm sure that I'm not the only one that buys Double Coins just because they are cheap. I've tried every brand available and none of them are much better or worse than the next. Some just cost less. I also wouldn't put much stock in what some "tire man" thinks. He may know what he's talkin' about but probably doesn't.

    The results I posted at the outset are true. Just wanted to share what I learned. Thanks again for the discussion ALL!
    R.

    Oh-yea! Almost forgot...Merry Christmas! to ALL.
     
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  7. G/MAN

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    I have had a problem a couple of times with Double Coin on my steers. But, as far as drives and trailer tires are concerned, they have worn pretty well. As far as replacement, Love's now carries them and you can find Love's about anywhere. The did a warranty on a tire for me just north of Indianapolis a few months ago. I wish that the U.S. manufacturers could reduce their prices and stand behind their product like the Double Coin people have done for me. One thing you should understand is that these off brands are often made by the large brand names.
     
  8. G/MAN

    G/MAN Road Train Member

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    I think that if the major U.S. tire manufacturer's stood by their products like Double Coin, they would not have lost as much market share. American's prefer buying products made in the U.S.A., but most of us won't do it to purchase something that is over priced or of inferior quality. We also won't purchase a product that the manufacturer continually fails to warranty.
     
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  9. twolane

    twolane Medium Load Member

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    Well it's been awhile since a post on this thread, so here goes.
    I made the comment that I wouldn't be afraid to run the TR-100 on the steer after doing the research, & seing how they ran on the drives for 150,000 miles. There's a set up there now & I'll letcha know how they do mileage wise as they go.
    I can tell ya that the truck steers like an indy-car (very precise) and rain is no problem at all. I think it's because theres not as much "squirm" side to side compared to a tire with deeper tread depth. My concern about hydroplaning was an unfounded. In high "G" turns the truck goes where ya point it like it's on rails. So far I like this tire on the front better than anything I've had prior. It took 4 oz. of weight ea. to ballance these and as I watched them spin on the ballance machine, I saw NO "out-of-round" in any dirrection. So far,,,I like these tires! I'll keep ya posted.
     
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  10. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    If a tire does not have "Made in USA" on the sidewall, it isn't going on my truck. Period.

    Tires, like anything else, you have to keep in mind that most of the time you are going to get exactly what you pay for.
     
  11. twolane

    twolane Medium Load Member

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    OK!,,,but you are gonna have a hard time finding one that says that.
    Micheln is a German company
    Toyo,Yokahama,Bridgestone for example are Japan based
    Kumho is Korean
    Basically that leaves Firestone, Goodyear, Cooper, etc. for you to choose from.

    Most of the time yer right! Once in awhile ya do get what ya pay for. Most of the time tho ya get way less than ya paid for especially when it says "Made in USA". Once in awhile ya get more than ya paid for & in this case,,,that's true!

    My chevy p/u was made in Canada. So was the 1980 Mack R model & the 2000 International 9900i I had. Didn't make em bad trucks just because they didn't have stamped on em somewhere "Made in USA".

    Our UNIONS & TAXES have forced American businesses to abandon America, & its workers,,,and go elsewhere.

    DoubleCoin is a company based in China. They make a better tire, have a better warranty, & cost less than any tire made in the USA!

    With all that said, WHY would you spend more money for a tire thats not as good, costs twice as much, & has a worthless warranty just because it says "Made in USA"? Even I'm not that patriotic & I'm a nam-era vet, did 12 months in Iraq, both my kids are middle east combat veterans multiple times. (Jasons in AFG.for the 3rd. time US Army Inf. Platoon Sgt.) I'm gettin real tired of this "Made in USA" crap! When the good-ole USA fires the UNIONS & lets America do what it does best, I'll quit buying stuff made elsewhere.

    All I'm trying to do here is share my real-world experience with others who may be interested. I don't have "stock" in DoubleCoin, but I almost wish I did. If ya don't wanna run the best tires you can buy reguardless of price just because they don't say "Made in USA".,,,don't! (You could also quit shopping at walmart while yer at it.)

    FIRE the GAWDDAMMEDUNIONS & ,close the borders to ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS so America can get back back to doin what we do best!

    "Made in USA'? Yer kidding right?

    R.
     
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