2 Axle Jeep weight distribution

Ok so I was unsure about starting a thread on this but here goes:

I know who wants to go to CA, right? It turns out that I want to go and the rates will support it, that is not what the discussion is about.

The problem I am trying to solve is how to use my existing trailer set without buying a west coast equalizer 9 axle and still haul loads up to 85/90k net.

As 8 axle I can scale 90k net in almost all states by configuring my trailer as a 3 plus or closed 4 and utilizing my 4 axle tractor. However, when I try to run west I run into issues with weight restrictions and equipment restrictions in both CA and AZ.

The weight issue I am trying to get past in AZ is that AZ will only give me 54k on my drives with the lift axle down and the same on my trailer as a closed 3 axle. So at 54000 empty weight with a max gross of 54+54+18 = 122k-54k = 68k in AZ


I could use my spreader as a 2+1 for a net gain of 46k+20k-54k-1k(weight of spreader bar) =10k


However, CA won't let me run the spreader at all and my 3rd axle flip only in certain situations at best.


CA and AZ will let me run a jeep and are liberal on length - not NM so much (85' needs an escort).


On my trailer I have a 10' neck with a 3' flip for a total of 13'. So, on my tractor when I put down the lift axle and do not have the fifth wheel slid all the way forward - weight comes off of my steer axle and things get scary for steering. I have loaded heavy and reduced the weight from 14.5k empty to 9k because I had my flip neck up (10' neck) and couldn't slide far enough forward.


So for this to work I can really only run with the lift axle up I think and 10' of neck on the jeep will work.


If I can get 18' from last drive axle on tractor to first drive axle on jeep then CA would give me a max of 46k on both axle groups. If I can only get 14 then I could get 39k on both. This would get me in both AZ and CA a net weight of (18+39+39+54-54-9(weight of jeep) = 87k


Most of the 2 axle jeeps I have seen have a short neck and long slider set up for a 17' neck. So I am not sure with my 13' neck if I can slide far enough forward to split the weight in a roughly 50/50 ratio between the jeep and drive axle groups.


Short of finding one to test with I hoping someone has tried this with a regular 55t trailer like mine vs. a 60t plus long neck trailer.

there you go Jason, I have posted it

 

That's what I am afraid of Ty. Know anyone that has one to test with?

 

I am going to try my trailer guy this week and see. They have one hooked to an old west coast 9 in their yard.

It will only work for me if a can get no more than 55/45 split and then it would have to be an 18 spread, otherwise it won't work.

so this is what I am thinking and the reach to the 5th wheel looks doable even slid forward

http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=5446222

 

No don't go to that trouble

If I can find one to test with, I am going to try and run it between the 2nd and 3rd axles and measure.