Mud Flaps on the back of the truck - Pulling Containers.. Part-2

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  1. Lunchman

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    Ok, not sure if I should start a new thread for this or not, but continuing on with my last posting....

    New question.. So was out this morning looking closer at the truck.
    Am wondering and someone mentioned it above, I have lots of room, what if I just moved them forward, I could pull them in closer to the rear wheels by almost 6 inches. +/- a little on that for I have not done the exact measurements, but if I went forward 6 inches and then about an inch down, I think I would be just fine.

    It seems am only catching them by just a tiny bit, specially if am not on a level surface. So, my next question is:

    Can I drill new holes in the back of the frame?

    I swear I've seen stickers on the brand new trucks that say you can't do this because the frame is heat tempered or some such. What would happened if I just drilled new holes in the very back of the frame? Good idea or not so good idea?

    Continuation from:
    http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...mudflaps-my-truck-new-pulling-containers.html
     
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  3. Powder Joints

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    No welding or drilling is allowed on frame rails.
     
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  4. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    Every time you mount a tool box, pump, blower, or any other accessory onto the truck, a drill is going to be involved. No way around it. You just keep your holes on the vertical portion of the frame, and at least an inch or two from the top or bottom and you'll be fine. Use hardened bolts (grade 8) the proper size for the holes to secure whatever it is you are bolting on.
     
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  5. Lunchman

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    Arg, so running 50/50 here..
    Taking one of the hanger bolts out, it looks like they did drill, or maybe even use a #### torch to make the holes for the hanger, pretty sure these are not stock from 2003. the holes look pretty rough, even "square" like in nature.

    How would you go about putting a square hole in to hang them?
     
  6. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    Carriage bolts have a square shank that fits into a square hole so that you only need 1 wrench. I hate the silly things, though, because after they have been in for a while, the nut backs off until the square shank can slip out of the square hole and then you've got nothing to keep the bolt from spinning as you are trying to get the nut off.

    They may have also gotten a "rough" appearance over the years if the bolts that were in there had worked loose and were wearing on the frame. Had that issue with my side box, and I used a unibit to open the hole up a little bigger rounding it out again and I just used bigger bolts.
     
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  7. xsetra

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    The square and round holes are punched in the frame before it is heat treated. You can drill into the web of the Frame rail not into the flange. . Take care not to heat up the frame when drilling, use plenty of cutting oil and a sharp bit. Start small bit and work bigger.
    My first truck I bought as a tandem and I cut the second axle and frame off to make it a single drive axle. I used a torch to cut off the end and to put holes in frame for new equipment. Never had an issue with the frame cracking. But was told by a couple mechanics never to overheat frame cause that can weaken the flange and that is what makes the strength of the frame. Never ever alter the flange.
     
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  8. xsetra

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    TO add. Putting brackets on the back to install mud flaps is not going to affect the structural integrity of the main frame. Your weight is transferred from hitch to axles. Not even close to your work area. I have even welded my mud flap brackets on.
     
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  9. Lunchman

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    Great! Thanks everyone for the advice.
    Headed down to the local Hardware store now for some bits and new hardware.. The local TA had some really nice spring hangers with an angle on the end, so am going to go that route.. Rather then buy new fancy hangers and screw them up thinking I'd moved enough for clearance..
     
  10. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    These work great: http://www.iowa80.com/DirectionsWEB/webcart_productDisplay.php?itemid=119478

    Like I said before, mount these up in the usual place and only hang mud flaps in 'em when you don't have a trailer. Stow the flaps in a side box, under the bunk, or strapped to the catwalk when you've got that container chassis behind you. Don't need 'em on the truck at all if you have a trailer.

    If you do it right, these won't interfere at all with your "nice" mudflaps if you should decide to pull something else that is compatible with them again...just mount these new brackets out of the way of where the "nice" ones were so this new bracket won't interfere.
     
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    It is due to high load.
     
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