2008 Prostar a/c clutch won't engage, no fault codes.

Discussion in 'International Forum' started by MobiusDiesel, Apr 26, 2013.

  1. MobiusDiesel

    MobiusDiesel Bobtail Member

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    Truck has come to me after dealership fail. No a/c complaint, all new parts from International, customer p.o.'d big time.
    What the?.... evacuated and recharged system, no leaks, no fault codes, all sensors ok, switches good, new compressor.
    Thermistor maybe? :biggrin_2556:
     
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  3. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    Is it getting power to the plug?
     
  4. eeb

    eeb Heavy Load Member

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    And a good ground back from the plug?
     
  5. carrkool

    carrkool Heavy Load Member

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    i just had the same thing on a classic. brand new clutchs but would not engaged. took new clutch off other truck that worked for testing and it worked on broken truck. new parts failure. after doing some homework found that if parts where mailed and scaned at some point it can de magnize the coil pack for good.....another new clutch and works great.
     
  6. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    The A/C on a Prostar is all computer controlled. Power to the clutch is sent from the body controller. The body controller is monitoring for inputs from the driver controls, temperature thermistors and a/c high pressure switch. To power the clutch the body controller must see an input from the driver controls, thermistors must be 28 degree F or higher. Body controller must see some pressure in the system, (not sure how much) to allow the compressor to run. There really isn't anything you can do if you cannot monitor the body controller with Diamond Logic software. If this guy just had all this work done, why is he coming to you? If the work wasn't done right he should be taking it back.
     
  7. MobiusDiesel

    MobiusDiesel Bobtail Member

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    Heavyd, for some reason logic builder didn't show the thermistor on the high side, replaced them all since there was an updated thermistor from international, system working good now. To answer your question, our shop here is literally a block away from the international dealer so we get alot of customers that dont have time to wait for international to piss around i guess.
     
    Heavyd Thanks this.
  8. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    Yah, I hear that! Glad to hear it is working good now. The thermistors are used so the body controller can monitor how cold the system is to prevent it from freezing up. When a thermistor is bad, usually open, that translates to a reading of zero degrees F. Since zero degrees is less than 28 degrees, the computer thinks the system is cold enough and will not run.
     
  9. Starduster246

    Starduster246 Bobtail Member

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    Where are the thermistors located
     
  10. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    Right side firewall area tapped into the ac lines that go into and out of the evaporator. There are no thermistors in 2010 and up Prostar trucks.
     
  11. A21CAV

    A21CAV Road Train Member

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    I have a 2011 Prostar built June 2010 with the Cummins ISX 400 and I have thermistors. I'm assuming you are referring to 2010 and up MaxxForce equipped ?

    My problem is excess high pressure shutdown until key cycle . Thermistors and high pressure switch have been replaced . I've been told by dealer mechanics replacing the thermistor connectors and sealing them is a waste of time .

    The thermistors are new so I'm doing the rest as recommended by International and replacing the high pressure switch which is less than a year old .

    I'll update next week ...

    Frank
     
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