Finished Knight Orientation

Discussion in 'Knight' started by CharlesS, Jul 7, 2014.

  1. JimDucan

    JimDucan Medium Load Member

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    I've seen some trainer trucks do just that.
     
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  3. bigblue19

    bigblue19 Road Train Member

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    They do run team in those training trucks. A trainer out of PHX told me usually after 2 weeks he does it because he gets all the miles It depends on the trainer, student and load scdl.
     
  4. Dna Mach

    Dna Mach Road Train Member

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    That's pretty stupid. I trained at Schneider years ago. I drove about 8 hours a day and my training engineer drove 2-4 hours a day and I only spent two weeks with him. That's all I needed and I can't see anyone needing anymore time than that.
     
  5. CharlesS

    CharlesS Light Load Member

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    Well finally home after 5 weeks of OTR training. I must say it has been an interesting experience, but I would not want to do it again!

    First of all lets just say that not everything you read or that is told to you is true.

    I had been told and read that Knight does not do team driving while training, not entirely true. The company does not force it but for now it is up to the trainer. I have "heard" that the team driving may be stopping but no real confirmation. We were team driving a week into training off and on.

    I was picked up at the Phoenix terminal, however the trainer was out of California (Tulare) and so my recruiter told me that they would try and get me home at least once during training. Never happened and was never brought up during training. Trainer did take home time twice while trucks were being serviced.

    While on the road I experienced the engine brake failing while going down a 6% grade between California and Oregon, was a real challenge keeping the brakes from burning up and not having an accident. That little problem cost us a few days at the Portland terminal while the repairs were made.

    Also experienced an accident while training, sitting at the shipper and another driver didn't swing his trailer wide enough and drug it down the side of our tractor. Lots of body damage, ruined tread on the steer tire, bent and stripped the tie rod, and moved the axle out of alignment. Took about 5 days to find a loaner truck, so spent a good bit of down time due to that.

    Also like I said we were down twice for truck service (Knight requires service at 7500 miles) and that took a couple of days each.

    Drove a lot of mountains, interstate freeways, 2 lane highways, city streets, and everything else.

    I am scheduled for my road test on Tuesday, only thing i am a little rough on is backing so hopefully that all goes well.
     
  6. OverDrive

    OverDrive "A Watchman on the Walls"


    Congratulations on surviving an engine break failure while going down a 6% grade as a rookie! Part of successful trucking is being in bad situations (equip failure, bad weather, etc.) and 'surviving!' What doesnt kill you (or the truck) makes you better...[​IMG]



    Sounds like my 1st couple of weeks in training: had a battery failure on a brand new Volvo truck during the 3rd day of its maiden voyage.

    Also, while waiting at a crossing into New Brunswick from Maine early in the AM (fortunately my trainer & I were in the truck, having just showered), had a logging truck pull in next to us and sent 3 of it's bulkhead logs into our trailer doors (my trainer believed if we werent there to confront the logging truck driver, he would have run!). Had to have the customer use a fork lift to rip the doors off the trailer to unload later that morning!

    You've gotten a taste of the hazards & vulnerabilities of being OTR....so far, so good!! [​IMG]


    BTW, backing into a space is everyone's "short suit" starting out......takes experience and then becomes 2nd hand.
     
  7. CharlesS

    CharlesS Light Load Member

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    Well i'm starting to question my decision to go with Knight...... Finished up with my trainer last Thursday after 5 weeks on the road, and was told to take time off and come back in on Tuesday for my road test. Well much to my own fault I failed the pre-trip. I should have been studying and keeping up on the air brake test and the inspection points, but I didn't (also didn't help that my trainer never did a pretrip the whole time we were out on the road, nor did he have me do it for practice). So got sent home again for a few days to study. Studied up on the pre trip, and went in this morning and did great, however not so well on the road test and the backing portion of the test. I thought I did okay on the driving, however the range instructor said I had multiple issues (not slowing soon enough before a stop sign/light, too fast around turns, up shifting/down shifting) and i couldn't hit the space between the two trailers no matter how I tried.

    All of this kind of p*sses me off, since the trainer said I was good to road test and the only thing I needed more work on was backing. So now I wait until Monday to find out what the next chapter in this story is. I drove the same way on the test today that I had for 5 weeks with the trainer, now all of the sudden its a problem.
     
  8. Cali Hawk

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    Sounds like they are testing you for your CDL-A all over again! Did you have any idea these would be the requirements to "test-out" to get your "solo" truck? I understand having to do the driving test and the backing,.....but the pre-trip?? Not that it isn't important, but how many drivers do a 100+ point inspection every day, and how many rookies know exactly what they are looking for? Naming off inspection points is one thing, understanding and recognizing what a "DOT failure" looks like is another.

    Hang in there. Do what you gotta do.
     
  9. OverDrive

    OverDrive "A Watchman on the Walls"

    Sounds like a combo of a bad trainer and over-critical road tester with the Pre-trip scrutiny.

    NO drivers due a full-up Pre-trip by-the-book EVERY day!

    As a 5 yr Express driver, taking a different tractor out each time I started out in Phx, I would do a 'fair/quickie' Pre-trip (tires/fluid/lights/wipers/certs, etc.) where I failed 1 out of every 2 tractors on Knights "Ready Line!' Tractors that had been looked at/washed/cleaned out, and 'passed' by the folks there.

    Some problems didnt show up until I got the tractor on the road, such as bad steering wheel shimmy, no engine brakes, uneven braking, etc.

    But as far as backing, as I said b4, it's all newbie's short suit, but with enuf pull-ups, a driver shud be able to get the trailer in altho not necessarily centered. Your trainer failed you if he didnt give you enuf opportunities to do, or passed you knowing you couldnt do.

    But, hang in there, as it all comes with more experience...


    EDIT: FYI, when I 1st started driving we had to log 30 mins b4 starting out and 30 mins at the end of the day for Pre/Post Trips, which ate up 1 hr of driver's on-duty time allocation. After a couple of years of seeing drivers running out of time or lying on their log books, they changed the reqd time to 15 mins for each...altho a full-up Inspection (crawling under trailer & tractor to check the brakes, gauge tire pressure of each of 18 wheels and possibly topping-off, etc.) would take all of the 30 mins originally reqd!
     
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2014
  10. CharlesS

    CharlesS Light Load Member

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    Just really am wondering what it was I did for 5 weeks.....
     
  11. CharlesS

    CharlesS Light Load Member

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    Just kind of feeling like i've been feed b.s. the whole time, starting with what I was told by the recruiter that wasn't true, now spending 5 weeks on the road apparently for nothing. With this much uncertainty so early in the game, im rather concerned about whats next.
     
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