My Experience With the Night squire program

Discussion in 'Knight' started by tobiasstorm, Dec 16, 2014.

  1. tobiasstorm

    tobiasstorm Bobtail Member

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    yea I went from knights to doing Heavy hauling but that died cause the Person that owned the company closed up. So I was driving again right after knights. Only been away from it for right at 2 months
     
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  3. icsheeple

    icsheeple Trailing the Herd

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    Oh, well, where did the other drivers go? Follow the herd...
     
  4. Puppage

    Puppage Road Train Member

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    Best of luck to you. You'll find your calling. Just keep at it.
     
  5. DenaliDad

    DenaliDad Retired Wheel Dog

    I sure hope this comes out right and you take it the way I intend. You have school experience only and some miserable experiences with training. After reading your post a couple of times, I have these insights:

    1. You seem to have gone into this with the (perhaps unrealistic) expectation that you would be out in training for 4 weeks or so and then kicked out on your own. Period.
    2. You seem to push back against their requiring that you drive through Winter conditions with a trainer before being allowed to do it alone.
    3. You seem to push back against having to demonstrate your ability in 'real world' situations to a trainer.

    Now my input.

    1. You get the training you need to satisfy your employer that you can handle their very expensive equipment and take care of the freight that their customer has trusted to their care and control with a reasonable expectation of success. My original training was set for four weeks; it actually took less because I met their standards. Other drivers took longer; some twice as long.
    2. Honestly, you're a little bit arrogant and very unaware if you think you can drive an 80,000 pound, 70 foot long commercial motor vehicle in the kind of nasty winter conditions you will experience without proving it...and learning from someone who knows.
    3. You will always be tested and asked to prove yourself. And asked to demonstrate your abilities over and over. Get over it.

    Honestly, you're not nearly as good or prepared for this job as you think you are. Your CDL training only prepared you to pass a test. Nothing more. You were not prepared to back into the docks you will encounter or how to maneuver your truck on black ice conditions or when the wind is blowing 50 mph or so.

    I've been driving long enough to have experienced all that and more. I've had great experiences and several "almost but not quite" experiences. But if you look at my Trucker? status, you will see "Student" listed. The reason is simple:

    I will be a student until I know it all and no longer need to be taught. Hopefully, that will never happen.

    You still need to be taught and you still have much to learn, like it or not. Stop thinking you know it all. Suck it up and put your ego away. When you woke up this morning, you put you Big Boy pants on. This is a very tough business and all trucking companies' insurance providers require certain assurances.

    You don't know as much as you think you do and aren't nearly as good as you think you are or will be when a trainer finishes with you. Even then, however, you are still just a beginner with a very steep hill to climb.

    I wish you well.
     
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  6. Truckin Juggalo

    Truckin Juggalo Medium Load Member

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    I remember my old Trainer at CRST Van Expedited 10yr ago lol.. He SUCKED i had nothing to my name 22yr old just got outta the army, and Trucking seemed like a good ideal.. HE Sucked he didn't Teach me Jack. I wasn't even allowed to back the truck.. and my 1st night on the truck he sat down with me watched me plan my trip then went back into the sleeper and laid down i was on my own.. Thank God for military training... Just Suck it up and Drive on Driver, Pretend to get along with whomever they stick you with and get it over with, your not really going to learn anything in 4 weeks anyway except getting more comfortable with driving a big truck. A Real Training Program would be a Year long or better, and that's what your first couple of years in this industry will be Trial, Error, and learning.
     
  7. DenaliDad

    DenaliDad Retired Wheel Dog

    Right! Just having a lot of experience will not make one a good trainer. And there is a WHOLE lot to learn after a driver leaves the trainer's truck.
     
  8. tobiasstorm

    tobiasstorm Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for your input. And I was just asking is that normal to do that kind of stuff aka all those tests and things ?? My nephew didn't have to go through all of that he drove less than 2 weeks and was let loose. I didn't know if I sucked or If I was good as my trainers did nada but yell at me for grinding gears or missing a gear or they just slept. And what Knights told me directly was that after 4 or 5 weeks the trainer would let them know if I was qualified to drive for them, or if I needed more time with him, or that I am hopeless as a truck driver and need to take up another profession. The First trainer I had like I said Just slept If I had not gotten sick and had to stay over night id have stayed with the first trainer. But as they said we would love you in Katy Texas so we will get you a trainer there. My first trainer was Just having me back into Walmart docs before he turned me loose or that is what he was telling me.


    I never had good training at Knights in my opinion. The way I was expecting it was me going in a truck and the driver that trained me Actually train me and if He felt I was good enough to turn me loose in my own truck so I can Start learning. As like you said the school only helps me get my CDL. They don't prepare you for driving nestles pure life water in a Pro star at 46,000 pounds of water so you are over weight. and got to avoid the chicken houses " I did that" . Or that you got to have your Tandems slid all the way to the back at Most Docks. And how many holes back you need to be with the Tandems to be able to make weight. Thank you all for all of your info and input. And if I came off as Arrogant I am sorry. Still a big time noob here. and will never stop learning. My take is that If I ever personally think I know everything about Trucking that Is when I need to Quit driving. Because you will never ever know everything.
     
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  9. icsheeple

    icsheeple Trailing the Herd

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    When I went with a trainer, drove pretty much the whole time. 3 weeks later I was solo. Knight sounds like they have a hand holding program, and teaming you, making more money off you for longer.
     
  10. tobiasstorm

    tobiasstorm Bobtail Member

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    yes seems that way to me as well. since you start out making 400 dollars a week. I was told by my first trainer that me and him was a sleeper team aka I drove he slept he drove I slept. sort of thing. I think that was to max his pay. If I remember correctly he got paid for every mile I drove + what he drove. . But 90% of the time my first trainer just slept. the Second trainer was Just a Drill instructor. I had never floated gears before at all ever. TDI required me to Double clutch. And so did my first trainer. well of course my second trainer required me to only float and never ever use the clutch just of course to stop and start. What I was hoping for was some one with some patience to train me and show me the ropes. That is what my Nephew got at PAM trucking. and like I said less than 2 weeks was out on his own.
     
  11. DenaliDad

    DenaliDad Retired Wheel Dog

    Forcing you to shift like that is wrong. A good trainer will help you learn the basics down good and then, near the end, expose you to some of the shortcuts like floating gears, which you will perfect on your own over time. Your second trainer should never have been one; it seems for him it was all about the Benjamin's, not teaching.

    I wouldn't blame the company, though, or put too much faith in your nephew's experience with PAM. I roomed with a former PAM driver whose training experience was much like yours, horrid; it's all about who you get, not the company. If you don't like your trainer, ask for a different one, no matter what your trainer says. Training is about you, not him.
     
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