The problem with virtually all lease purchase deals today from someone whose done it

Discussion in 'Lease Purchase Trucking Forum' started by mickey0, Jun 14, 2014.

  1. mickey0

    mickey0 Bobtail Member

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    My first and last lease purchase deal worked fine for me, but it was for 0.95 cents a mile 20 YEARS ago! Since then, while the rate they pay the lease purchase driver has stayed approximately the same, your biggest expense, fuel, has QUADRUPLED and the price of a new truck has doubled! I can still remember paying $1.00/gal for fuel in the early 1990s and getting paid 0.95 cents loaded or empty. It worked then, but the math clearly doesn’t work at $4.00/gallon and anywhere near $1.00/mile. As the fuel prices increased, how did I adapt? I did what the other trucking companies where doing and became a real owner operator with my own motor carrier authority and shippers. But of course, 1) You line up a couple of shippers and rates FIRST, 2) Have plenty of trucking experience (no newbies) and at least $10,000.00 saved-up. When you’re your own trucking company with your own shippers, you may not be paid for weeks for the loads you’re doing. You need to be able to continue to drive and go a month with no pay while you wait for your first checks and 10,000 miles/month divided by 6.5 mpg at around $4.20/gallon is $6461.00 you need to be prepared to shell-out before you see much income. And this doesn’t include tractor payments, insurance, repairs, lap dances, etc.
     
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  3. Stile

    Stile Heavy Load Member

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    Nice post. I'm looking into getting my own rig. It'll be about a year before I make the jump because I want to have plenty set aside when the time comes to be able to at least nibble a bit during the first year famine.
     
  4. Mrcam216

    Mrcam216 Light Load Member

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    Good post. And I absolutely agree, the lap dances are by far my biggest expense on the road. It seems the older I get, the more the dances goes up and the shorter the songs are. When I first started out, a dance was about 5 or 10 bucks and the songs lasted about 7 or 8 minutes. Now the dances from quality dancers are about 15 to 20 per dance and the songs last 3 or 4 minutes. Unless the government does something about these short songs and rising dance prices, I'm not sure I'm going to make it out here.

    (Just kidding just kidding. I haven't been to a strip club since in yearsssss. Just a little morning humor)
     
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  5. rockstar_nj

    rockstar_nj Medium Load Member

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    That's just business. Nobody goes into business and takes a profit for their first few months. Leasing, though, you have to understand what a lease is, it's more than just a glorified rental. I'm already seeing it, companies wave the money in front of you to get you to take on a lease with them... And then take over the operating costs of a truck that's going to start needing maintenance like crazy. Lucky for me, I've always been taught business from people running them. 90cpm is great, even compared to my hourly pay... When the truck is payed off. I can try to take on better loads, but I'm a solo truck, they're not going to trust me, and then why let my carrier be the backup, when they have carriers contracted to them that they can probably get to do it cheaper?

    The problem is the people agreeing to the lease without truly understanding it. That lease is NOT to get you a cheaper truck, it's to save the company money, and to at least break even on the truck. It doesn't mean you can't benefit from it, but you have to understand business. Not the "I'm an O/O so I'm my own business" guys, the ones who actually figured out how to make leasing a truck benefit them more than buying a truck (hint: telling Conway about all the loads you've run for them under your carrier, with your signed sheets showing you picking up and delivering on time every single time, is a benefit over the random guy Swift might send them)
     
  6. wonderdog24

    wonderdog24 Medium Load Member

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    .45 FUEL SURCHARGEX6.5MPG =2.925 PER GALLON DISCOUNT COMPARED TO 20 YEARS AGO... ONLY 7.25 CENTS A GALLON DIFFERENCE... A little over a penny a mile.... If that causes problems you shouldn't be in trucking
     
  7. JR OTR

    JR OTR Light Load Member

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    It seems the biggest issue with lease purchase programs today vs 20 years ago are drivers who don't understand what fuel surcharge means.
     
  8. Mrcam216

    Mrcam216 Light Load Member

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    I think the biggest issue is people taking off too much time disregarding the fact that the payment and fees are still due every week.
    Lease purchase programs can work good. I'm netting (not including taxes I'll pay at the end of the year) after all fees about 1700 a week. But I'm only home once a week just for a 34 and then I'm right back out.
     
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