Truck and engine dependability

Discussion in 'Lease Purchase Trucking Forum' started by lmcclure1220, Feb 15, 2015.

  1. lmcclure1220

    lmcclure1220 Light Load Member

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    I've been looking at new and used truck prices and I see a lot of trucks (even company trucks) for sale with only 500.xxx miles or so on them. I find it strange that they would be "retired" with so few miles. Is it because of dependability or tax issues? I realize most are just coming off of a lease program but 500K in my mind is half life of a truck.

    I have also read that several engines have had issues since 2006 because of the pollution control and such. Do they make a "million mile" engine any longer? Is 500K a lot of miles on a modern truck?

    Sorry if it sounds like a dumb question but any Cummins or Cat engine was good for a million when I was running. Even the larger Detroits would push close to that.

    What about Paccar and Volvo engines?

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  3. RetiredUSN

    RetiredUSN Medium Load Member

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    Some companies will upgrade the fleet to attract drivers. Some companies will sell off trucks to downsize. The newer emission control engines are going through growing pains while sorting out issues.

    My C-15 Cat was considered high tech at the time.......go figure! The EPA has the trucking industry in a flux right now. Too many rule changes.......too fast!
     
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  4. mp4694330

    mp4694330 Road Train Member

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    Volvo D12 supposedly are 1.5 million engines.

    My '01, little over million now, owned since 700,000, turbo and radiator are only major things replaced.

    And oil samples coming back great.
     
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  5. RetiredUSN

    RetiredUSN Medium Load Member

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    Sweeeeeet!
     
  6. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Companies keep or replace their trucks for a variety of reasons. Taxes are part of it, as are several other factors like buying the salesman's pitch about improved economy and cost savings of the new models and wanting to upgrade, or realizing the salesman was full of excrement and cutting your losses after completely missing on the specs. Some companies feel they HAVE to have new trucks in order to attract drivers, while others choose payments & a warranty over slightly higher maintenance costs. Ask 1000 different owners why they run the trucks they do, and you might get 1000 different answers.
     
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  7. FLATBED

    FLATBED Road Train Member

    A lot of the major fleets only lease their trucks and renew them at 4 years or 500,000 miles if not sooner as it use to be the 5th year of operation on a bought new truck is usually the most CPM for repairs , rebuilds ( not counting the new pollution system problems )
     
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  8. russtrucker

    russtrucker Road Train Member

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    I bought my t600 for $10k. Had 715k miles when i bought it. It's mbn. Planning to do a conversion to 6nz.
     
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  9. lmcclure1220

    lmcclure1220 Light Load Member

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    That is what I'm thinking. You can get an older one cheap enough to rebuild if necessary. Trucking companies when I was on the road before wouldn't lease anything over 5 years old no matter what condition they were in. Being able to lease an older truck now sure give you more options.
     
  10. Blu_Ogre

    Blu_Ogre Road Train Member

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    Cummins factory engine was 500k miles/5 year warranty.

    No aftermarket extended warranty for emmisions systems, a major financial exposure.

    So for a newer truck with 500k miles you have only minimal warranty available.
     
  11. russtrucker

    russtrucker Road Train Member

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    I just want to buy a spare 6nz engine in case of that mbn's death.
     
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