Question on truck, no CDL needed

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  1. kennyharrill

    kennyharrill Bobtail Member

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    The company I work for is looking for a truck with no air brakes that you can legally drive with no CDL license needed. We are needing to purchase one to transport a truck body from Georgia to North Carolina. Any information helpful. Also, minimum GVW would be helpful.
     
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  3. nb629

    nb629 Light Load Member

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    maximum gvw 25,999 lbs no air brakes. I think
     
  4. brian991219

    brian991219 Road Train Member

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    Your truck would have to have a gross vehicle weight rating of 26,000 pounds or LESS, but keep in mind anything over 10,001 pounds gross vehicle weight rating is still a commercial vehicle if used in interstate commerce so all the other rules that apply to trucking would apply to your operation as well including hours of service, DOT number, MC number if you are for-hire, driver qualification files, medical card, etc, just no cdl or DOT drug test.

    Typically a flatbed in this weight class will weigh about 13-14,000 empty giving you a payload capacity of about 12,000 pounds, which should be enough to move an empty truck body.

    If this is a one time move it will be cheaper to just hire it out to a hot shot freight company.
     
  5. WitchingHour

    WitchingHour Road Train Member

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    It's still a commercial vehicle if its only used intrastate, as well. The FMCSR doesn't make any distinction between interstate and intrastate vehicles insofar as the definition of a CMV is concerned
     
  6. brian991219

    brian991219 Road Train Member

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    The FMCSA has no jurisdiction over intrastate, only the state you are operating in, providing you are not engaging in interstate commerce, so yes, they do make a distinction. For example, in my home state of Pennsylvania, if the vehicle is only used in intrastate commerce then it is not a commercial vehicle until it is over 17,000 GVWR, meaning no medical or other compliance if the vehicle and the cargo never leave the state. Please see the definition of a commercial vehicle from the FMCSA.

    Commercial motor vehicle means any self-propelled or towed motor vehicle used on a highway in interstate commerce to transport passengers or property when the vehicle—
    (1) Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating, or gross vehicle weight or gross combination weight, of 4,536 kg (10,001 pounds) or more, whichever is greater; or
    (2) Is designed or used to transport more than 8 passengers (including the driver) for compensation; or
    (3) Is designed or used to transport more than 15 passengers, including the driver, and is not used to transport passengers for compensation; or
    (4) Is used in transporting material found by the Secretary of Transportation to be hazardous under 49 U.S.C. 5103 and transported in a quantity requiring placarding under regulations prescribed by the Secretary under 49 CFR, subtitle B, chapter I, subchapter C.
     
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