How much difference is there in the Mack Pinnacle and a comparable Volvo truck? Are Macks still their own thing, or have they taken a lot from Volvo?
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So Volvo owns Mack...
Discussion in 'Mack Forum' started by Buffalo444, May 4, 2012.
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From what I've gathered Mack still uses their own ECM tuning to keep the engine running like a Mack and deliver better low end torque than the Volvo. All the m drive is almost the same as the I shift, only difference being is Mack programs the transmission to shift differently.
Only with Mack can you get the auto and have it run at 60-65mph @1050-1150rpm
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I'll take my '09 Pinnacle over a similar Volvo any day of the week, rides quieter, smoother, other than stupidity at the dealer, fewer problems.
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I'm currently running a new Pinnacle (45K miles) with the 444hp McVolvo engine and WCS shift "auto" 12 spd. Shifts at 1600rpm and that's where it runs at 64mph. Averages 6 to 6.5 loaded or empty. We actually have 50 of em, identical spec.
Already been to Mack on "recall" for "trouble with the bull gear" (their phrase not mine). I suspect they just "reprogrammed" the shift pattern. Shifts slightly better than it did but still not right. Several of them have a severe brake prob... lock up brakes totally at speed with no warning. Apparently a prob with the electronic "hill holder". Hasn't happened to me... yet. No idea if this was addressed in the e-fix. They come get the truck and bring it back "fixed". No contact with driver atall. This may not be Mack's fault... Service Trans "management" in Houston is currently having a Brain Fart and trying to turn us into Swift Transport.
Anyhow, quality control is no longer a part of Mack I guess. I'll drive it but I sure wouldn't buy one.
We also have a couple of "big cab" Volvits for our "teams". Total POS; very shoddy assembly.
Oh, BTW.... have learned a new "name" for my truck..... "E-Dog". -
I was told by my local Volvo/Mack service manager that the engines and transmissions are identical except for valve covers and paint color's.
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