DriveCam....

Discussion in 'Millis' started by Cooper09, Apr 29, 2013.

  1. rarudi

    rarudi Light Load Member

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    Coop started this. I wanna know what he thinks...
     
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  3. Dinomite

    Dinomite Road Train Member

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    At night you can put your hat over the camera!! If you are sleep. If I own a trucking company. I would want to know my drivers are doing their job to the best of their ability, and the opps a dear jumped out in front of me and I rolled the truck. Get's expensive. When actually you was off in la la land, and it could of been avoided. Good drivers are not going to care unless the safety department gets super picky with little things.
     
  4. db2681

    db2681 Medium Load Member

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    I think you are missing the point here. No one puts a camera in the dispatchers home. This is nothing but a way to save a company from being sued. It will not help the driver in any manner. It records sound as well as video, and as I have said its not just critical events that set it off, it can be turned on at any time, by the company that administers the camera and by Millis once the software and hardware is fully installed.

    For example, I am rolling along 70 in PA and hit construction that causes me to drive on the shoulder and am running on rumble strips the whole time, the camera turns on. Lets also say I am talking on my headset with another drive, and complaining about dispatch,miles,customers,looking at local jobs, or anything a driver does 10 times a day that 1. The company has no need to hear and 2. the company isn't going to like. Hows that help a driver?

    Or better example that happened, I'm rolling down 70 in PA in the construction and a truck comes flying up the left hand land and starts to swerve into my lane, I go right to avoid getting hit, they are never going to see the other truck on my side, just me swerving in my lane.

    Good drivers are going to care because they are being punished because of a bunch of jack offs that shouldn't be behind a car wheel let alone a truck. If your drivers are so bad, or you feel they are so bad, that you need to record them driving, for "safety" and to "help" them incase of an accident. You should have fired them a long time ago.
     
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  5. Dinomite

    Dinomite Road Train Member

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    You made good points, but we still have freedom of speech, and you were looking for a gig anyway. The next company might not have them so it's a win win. Actually I don't think they will keep them from being sued, but actually will cause them to be sued for more if the driver is at fault. So they probably won't stay in the trucks for long after they see how many drivers are slapping themselves to make it the the next safe place to stop. It really isn't in our hands though. Either we work for the company that has them or you work for the company that doesn't. I like my good benefits at my current job, and if trucks are having accidents they could put the company out of business, and I'm back paying tons of money for the same insurance I was getting for cheap at this company. So you have freedom to drive or to not drive for them. If you currently don't have it in your truck. Just drive like you do have them in your truck, and you won't notice the difference. When they are installed. I'm just interested in how they work. I would volunteer but my truck is about to be traded. So I know they won't put it on my truck.
     
  6. db2681

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    They are hooked into the qualcomm for the data network. Its nothing more than senors, that detect a sudden movement of the wheel, hard braking,rumble strips, a nice strong wind can set off the sensor, we don't have them but the sensors for following distance on trucks can turn them on, and they can be remotely logged into.

    Example of how the cameras aren't going to help a drive. You are cruising along through Chicago with its short get on ramps. Car doesn't know how to merge flys up the shoulder and cuts you off and break checks you. You go for the breaks and rear end the driver. The only thing the camera because it doesn't record at all times gets is from the time the hard breaking sets of the sensor or the impact sets off the sensor. never going to see that the car break checked you, or anything leading up to it. Its your word against them. Just like now.
     
  7. Cooper09

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    There are several of these systems out there...the one Im familiar with is he DriveCam system. There is accelerometer...not sure if that is how you spell it lol. It senses all kinds of movement, obviously hard brakes or swerves but also will go off on body roll or sway. I have set it off pulling in a rough driveway, taking ladders off the rack or hitting a pothole. I don't know how sensitive they would be in a big truck but I know I have bumped docks hard enough to set it off. And some of these XXXL drivers I see would set it off just hauling themselves in the cab.

    As far as turning it on to watch a driver anytime I can't say for sure about all of them but that wasnt possible. That might just be a rumor rooted in paranoia. I do know for sure that it is recording all the time, if you have an 'event' it uploads 10-15 seconds before and after the event. That includes sound. It will show exact location, speed and it times out following distance to 1/10 of a second. The footage goes to the company that runs the system, they go over it and assign some point system to the clip and forward it to the company using them. Then they will look at it and go from there. That might range from nothing to termination obviously. What it will mean to drivers is, probably, the restriction of all the activities that cause events ie smoking, drinking, eating, adjusting radio, using the CB etc. The list is endless.

    Now Im not saying it is ok to eat a cracker and run over a minivan full of people... so don't kill the messenger. Are there drivers who need to be off the road? Of course... but these cameras wont do that. Maybe a couple but a very small percentage.

    Well this post is too long already so I will wrap it up by saying that I don't like the idea of the interior cam at all. Put em facing the front and sides, but I think it is an invasion of privacy inside the cab. I would like to be a fly on the wall the first time a safety director gets a clip of a 400 lb Cpappy rubbing one out in his dingy tighty whiteys lol
     
  8. Boomer 1

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    Also, a deer runs out in front of you for having morning coffee BANG preventable accident on your record when you apply for another job and Millis does report!


    Another thing I have been trying to recruit drivers.....well this news traveled fast, first thing other drivers ask,I can't tell it's not true. We seem to be getting a bad rep on the road lately.
     
  9. L.B.

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    That's what I was talking about as far as reputation. I get asked all the time. They hear about the cameras and we put in the same category as the mega cdl mills. I'm sure its the reason we are having a hard time recruiting experienced drivers.
     
  10. 900,000-tons-of-steel

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    You're a recruiter? By all means, then voice what you said here to your superiors, the higher-ups. They need to know what behavior is responsible for your company "getting a bad rep on the road lately" and why MANY drivers are going to avoid it like the plague. Don't assume they know ... and even if they do, they need to hear it from folks like you.

    I don't know a lot about Millis, only what I hear from other drivers and through the grapevine and read online. So far, it's been pretty good but with this camera implementation, that good reputation is going to fall faster than the powers-that-be can ever repair it.

    Cooper explained it all ... so much for those who say these specific cameras don't record all the time. Speak up.
     
  11. L.B.

    L.B. Third Generation Truck Driver

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    he's a driver but Millis relies on its drivers to most of the recruiting. They are making it that much harder with the cameras
     
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