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    Bobtail Member SlickDigit's Avatar
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    Pat Salmon & Sons (mailhauler)

    Does anyone have any experience with Pat Salmon and Sons Trucking? I have been offered a job with them, and I was just looking for any opinions from their current or former drivers. They also have subsidiaries like Elbar Inc. and a couple of others.
    I know they are postal contractors who haul the mail in a "pony express" style, but need to know what kind of company it is. Thanks to all who reply....


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    Why is this in "report a bad trucking company?"

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    pat salmon

    Quote Originally Posted by SlickDigit View Post
    Does anyone have any experience with Pat Salmon and Sons Trucking? I have been offered a job with them, and I was just looking for any opinions from their current or former drivers. They also have subsidiaries like Elbar Inc. and a couple of others.
    I know they are postal contractors who haul the mail in a "pony express" style, but need to know what kind of company it is. Thanks to all who reply....
    my husband used to haul bulk mail(box truck) for company in michigan, he loved it, EXCEPT for the hours, he worked technacally 7 days a week, NO MATTER the weather, which in northern michigan, weather can be a bear in winter, you still drove, see the road or not, plus, you worked split shifts, few hours in morning, few in afternoon/evening, again, 7 days a week, his "day off" was from time he got home saturday morning till sunday afternoon, otherwise, twice a day other 6 days. plus, getten time off was hard, i not rare. since it wasnt a full 40 hrs, he worked part time in between routes for extra bucks. he actually loved the job thou, hard work, but on his own. only down side is again, if a blizzard strikes, your driving it. DOT safety rules do not apply, inmanner of, if weather is so bad, pull over, you dont, mail MUST be delivered. alot of drivers say this goes against the rules, i dont know, they dont drive full rigs, but have to follow dot, so dont same rules apply for safe driving? anyways, drivers would leave due to this, because they was putten their lives at risk on some of those roads in bad storms. im not sure if Pat salmon drives this way, you should see. MY hubby also went to apply for them, he was more then qualified since he has done it, and is OTR trucker now, but when he saw the "on call" 27/7 after dot 10hr deal, he passed, he didnt want to get into a worse shift then before. from what he gathered, is you get a call, ya best bust butt to get there, basically drop what ya was doing and run, that wasnt for him, BUT....by all means, if it isnt that way after all, let us know, we would appreciate knowing how they trully operate their runs, bacause we knew most of the otr truckers at post office back home, and none of them said they ran a route like Pat Salmon does, so we to, would like to know. thanks for future updates in advance, and best of luck out there, ps...which city did ya hire onto?? we was looken at the Tulsa OK one.

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    i work for pat salmon and i only work 9.5 hrs a day and thats it. But their otr trucks only run 65 mpr and they do need new trucks owers are junk.

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    Just recently left them due to a mis-communication on my part & listening to my co-driver. However they added CWS (collision warning systems on some of the trucks) the one that was on our team truck drove us crazy. Braking when its not suppose to. Taking fuel throttle away when its not suppose to. That aggravation aside I drove with them for 26 months from Greensboro, NC to LA, California and then from Jacksonville, FL to San Francisco & Los Angeles, CA & return. They pay better than most companies. My 56 hr run (4 days team from Jax to LA & back) paid right at $1250.00 a week and San Fran(66hrs paid to each driver) run paid just over $1400.00 a week. Thats pretty good money for a company driver. Drop & hook is all you do. You will rarely ever touch freight. Then its in cages on rollers. If its on the floor the warehouse or US Postal guys pull it off. I am having to job hunt now but its my fault. The truck did throw my back out slamming on brakes for no reason though. If your lucky you will get a truck without the CWS on them. Not all of the terminals have them. Equipment is late model International Pro Stars. We had a 2013. I worked for them on three occasions. Best paychecks in the trucking industry for me so far. Actually wish I was still there & had not listened to my co-driver. Insurance is costly unless you are a veteran. Fortunately I was, so I used the VA & was not required to have their health insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickDigit View Post
    Does anyone have any experience with Pat Salmon and Sons Trucking? I have been offered a job with them, and I was just looking for any opinions from their current or former drivers. They also have subsidiaries like Elbar Inc. and a couple of others.
    I know they are postal contractors who haul the mail in a "pony express" style, but need to know what kind of company it is. Thanks to all who reply....

    my suggestion is to look elsewhere. find someone that cares about their employees.

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    i worked for them {mca} for several months in nc....trucks are slugs governed between 65 and 72..that will not stop you being written up for averaging 89 miles per hour by the fat slob of a safety man though and you could not make him understand the impossibility of such an occurance.....job is pretty cool, that is, the p/u and deliver part..as mentioned above they expect you to take a 53 ft trailer with a day cab that has maybe a 1000 pound load out in the worst of weather conditions no matter what no chains no nothing just go.....that didnt bother me much as i was used to it but it does alot of drivers...i was promised when i signed on the extraboard at hiring i would be on a dedicated run in 2-3 months....i signed up for every dedicated run for 8-9 months to no avail..i asked the manager, the one that had told me 2-3 months and this time she told me if i was lucky i would get a dedicated run in 2 years...on the dispatch for extraboard you could {then} be called back into work 8 or 10 hours after you clocked out...i would drive an hour to work, work between 5-14 hours, drive an hour home, shower, eat, lay down and almost every single day 3 hours later i got a phone call to return to work at exactly the 8 or 10 hours..never got any sleep..drove with one hand holding my eyelids open..on several occasions had to do my 10 hours of downtime in a truck stop in a da^^ daycab...still it was okay to a point i guess...that point was my main dispatcher, who, as long as you kissed her backside exactly how she wanted it all was fine...then i agree to team on a hot run...she says if you can run this load in less than 24 hours you both will get paid for all time out...then she added '' you can't run this load in less than 24 hours''..not like dont do it but like it was impossible...well me and the co-driver were sitting back in the parking lot in 21 hours both grinning like possums, and we even stopped at a steakhouse along the way.....well you know it...the dispatcher was telling us not to do it in less than 24 hours...she got pissed, raised hail and then blackballed us both...i had been working 7 days a week up to that point...after that she would call maybe 2 times each week wanting me to do a 5 hour, 100 mile run...that was it...bottom of the barrell...and all it amounted to was that she and im sure others there knew that if we ran it in less than 24 hours then the rates would be cut....the job itself was cool...the rest was questionable to say the least..maybe its changed by now seems as if everything does....it beats going hungry or standing in hand out lines by a longshot...

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    now that i think about it a couple other things came to mind one might be interested in knowing...their required medical insurance...it was like $120-$140 a week out of my check just for ins on me.....when i asked would insurance through another company {where the rates were 66 bucks a month for better coverage} work i was told no i had to purchase it through them...i used, well, tried to use the insurance a couple times...at the time it was bcbs arkansas...every single charge was denied they wouldn't pay a cent on what the book said were covered charges....also the mechanic shop was a joke..i noted busted brake diaphrams on the same wheel on the same trucks numerous times and i dont think they were ever fixed...once i noted the windshield wiper/turn signal lever had a short in it...the wipers would just quit, same as the signals..jiggle the lever enough they would finally work as long as you held it in the perfect place to make connection...the very next day i get the same tractor again...i noticed when i got in that a large rubber band was wrapped around the lever...when i checked it out it had not been fixed at all...well i guess you could call it a rubber band repair haha...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickDigit View Post
    Does anyone have any experience with Pat Salmon and Sons Trucking? I have been offered a job with them, and I was just looking for any opinions from their current or former drivers. They also have subsidiaries like Elbar Inc. and a couple of others.
    I know they are postal contractors who haul the mail in a "pony express" style, but need to know what kind of company it is. Thanks to all who reply....
    I DROVE FOR PAT SALMON FOR 13 YRS OUT OF THE ALBQ NM TERMINAL THEY SHUT TERMINAL DOWN TO SAVE MONEY bUT THEIR A GOOD COMPANY THE MONEY IS GREAT LIKE ALL COMPANYS THEY HAVE THEIR ISSUES I WOULD WORK FOR THEM AGAIN HOPE THAT HELPED

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    Around my parts, During the holiday season, They advertise on craigslist. Class B $21hr and Class A $24hr.
    It's good money, USPS drivers nearly/or doubles that per hour. In the end, The mail must get delivered.