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differance between tx and nd oilfield jobs (truck driving)

Discussion in 'Oilfield Trucking Forum' started by steve06, Dec 20, 2013.

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  1. Dec 20, 2013 #1
    steve06

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    Would anyone happen to know if there is a big pay differance between working in nd and tx....ive work here in pa running sand cans and fresh water.
    I am trying to find a good company to get in with but im not sure about the pay differance so any info would really help.
     
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  3. Dec 20, 2013 #2
    born&raisedintheusa

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    North Dakota gets EXTREMELY cold, whereas Texas has much warmer weather. I do not know what the differences in pay are, but the differences in weather temperatures, between North Dakota and Texas are incredibly different.

    God bless every American and their families! God bless the U.S.A.!
     
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  4. Dec 20, 2013 #3
    chaz7r

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    I've seen water hauling jobs advertised in Texas for as low as $15 an hour. You ask 10 guys to pick Texas or north dakota and tell them they both pay $20 an hour. Where do you think they will go. Sure as hell not north dakota.
     
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  5. Dec 21, 2013 #4
    sculptor

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    i used to be a frac-hand but now haul sand. I was liquid nitdogen so i traveled quite alot. Fraced in nine different states from the Rio Grande to the Canadian border. ND is nice in the summer but winter is not only cold but it is windy.windy enough to blow off a frozen ear. in the winter its chain up chain down, chain up chain down. Pay is good and work steady but it is a boom area. water haulers are usually daycabs so you could be living in a storage container with three other guys, and i understand that two over easy with toast and bacon can cost you ten bucks. Texas is hot and muggy and it rains. summer is hot enough to buckle you knees. the work seems to be good but supposedly DOT is a real pain in the butt. lots of chewed up roads both places. sand hauling is with a sleeper so you trvel with your home, so consequently you dont get out much. all places requkre you to bring your own ppe to get hired which if your starti.ng from scratch can cost a few bens. if you like feeling like a nomadic hunter/gatherer these are the places for you. that is the way i feel...and i like it. a wayfarer
     
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  7. Dec 22, 2013 #5
    MrIT

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    Is the marcales shale slowing down in pa?
     
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  8. Dec 22, 2013 #6
    steve06

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    In some places its slowing down......the problem is pa wants as much money as thy can get from the drilling companies so in return as you know crap rolls downhill people dont want to work for peanuts.
     
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    MrIT

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    All the cdl schools around pgh seem to be advertising shale jobs with excellent pay
     
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  10. Dec 23, 2013 #8
    acam4

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    I would hope pay is better in ND considering there is nothing there compared to Texas.
     
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  11. Dec 23, 2013 #9
    Ezrider_48501

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    iv never worked in tx but from what iv seen nd pays more. however you are working in harsher conditions in nd and expenses are higher in nd, i would say go to work wherever is closer for you to get home for your home time.
     
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  12. Dec 23, 2013 #10
    rookietrucker

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    Can't tell you about water but I've been hauling sand for a few years in Texas now. The rates have gone thru the floor and it rolls down to the driver. You use to make 2k+ a week and didn't have to run hard. Now to make 1k+, you have to run your tail off and be very very creative with your log. Some of the big players (frac companies),have cut out demerge. Almost all together. Yet, they want you to be in the same hazards of their employees and have put more safety responsibility on drivers. I don't have a problem with them implementing safety protocols. I do expect to make a equivalent as their employees. I'm in the same hazards as them.

    As for demerge, so many trucking companies have jumped on the sand bandwagon down here. Many are playing cut throat with rates and the driver is getting the short end of it. What I've seen them doing now, ordering loads of sand and be to a certain area, at such a time. Then they are dispatching you from that area to the well. Yep, you are now a rolling warehouse and not getting paid for that time sitting on that load. Your time starts 2hrs after you get to the well. Usually, when you get to the well, they are ready for you and the load of sand. You might get 15-30mins of demerge.

    I have run a few loads to ND and this has not been the case up there. Seems to be a whole different animal.

    Bottom line of my rant is, If you do look to haul sand in Texas. Find out which frac company they are hauling for and what is the logistics of pay.
     
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