I have also served. However, I feel it is my responsibility as an American to pass on to future generations the same opportunities, freedoms, and rights that allowed me to be where I am today. It did not end the day I was discharged. The current generation is the first generation that will be worse off than their parents. That is my fault, just as it is the majority of Americans fault. Most Americans take and do not return the same opportunities that they were offered. The majority of Americans are simply users. I appreciate all who continue to serve their country and hope to hook up with some of you at the many events planned is support of America.
NEVER ARGUE WITH A FOOL, LISTENERS CAN'T TELL WHICH IS WHICH.

I appreciate your efforts here, Patriot.

Like you said earlier in this thread, I have big doubts that our fellow countrymen deserve liberty. They make no effort to sustain it; they refuse to learn; they get blown this way and that by fear of this and fear of that, but the real things that should be feared, they ignore. Some say, "Well MY job is not personally in danger, and looking out for number one is my only priority ..."

But our history says:

But our history teaches us:

And they tried to warn us:

And they tried to guide us:

And then those on this site who have said, "WE HAVE TOLD THE POLITICIAN! HE WILL SAVE US!"

And then you Google:

"Mexican truckers": 427, 000 hits
and
"Iraq war": 92,700, 000 hits
"Stem cells": 37,200,000 hits
"gay marriage": 11, 300,000 hits

And on and on and on, through the myriad distracting issues of the day, and you have to ask: does anybody honestly believe that even if there are 10 politicians who care about this issue, or even a hundred, that it stands any chance of surfacing, through the noise and chatter, into the public debate?

Well, yes, it does. For instance, if you were to, say, form a ring around Washington DC, and shut down everything for an hour, why, yes, suddenly it would be the subject of debate on every radio program and a prominent issue on the sunday talk shows.

We're not talking about marching on Selma here, and being beaten to within inches of your life, or walking thousands of miles to the sea to protest.

When in the world did Americans become such timid sheep?

How did so many come to believe, "just lay there and take it, and you won't get hurt?"

My heart is broken for this country, and for our kids.

I appreciate your efforts, Patriot; I just don't know that it is deserved any longer.

If the Mexicans will fight for liberty and prosperity, then maybe we should get out of the way and let them lead. These are people the Founders would be proud of.

They don't, but the fact that they are here, and there is no cost effective means in which to send them back across the border, leaves little doubt that they are completely aware that they can do this unharmed.

It's not "freedom" they seek. They seek the right to work.

Actually, it doesn't need to be stopped. NAFTA will be one key in reversing the reasons that those south of the border seek to come here. When the economy improves down there, you will see the tide of immigrants flow southward.

I've got a proposal...

How about every person who is so concerned about the influx of illegal immigrants, hop into their pickup trucks after they drive to their local building supply to purchase a load of concrete blocks, drive down to the border and form a collective effort to erect a wall. That'll show 'em who's boss.

Pitiful. Another site offered by the union, in their abject fear of losing their clout in America. It's chalked full of irrational fears, complete misrepresentations of the facts surrounding the issue, and it bashes the President in one fell swoop...

I'm as concerned with illegal immigration as the next person, but the key to reversing that flow is giving the people that have come here, or who want to come here, a reason to return or to decide not to.

We could just starve 'em out by locking every door in this country to them, but what would that accomplish, and what does that make us as human beings?

This country cannot survive by slamming the doors shut to the world. Do a little studying on the subject to understand why NAFTA, while creating temporary hardship for some, will not prevent those negatively affected from moving on in life to other venues of making a living, and it will eventually raise the bar for us all.

Upping the ante of those countries south of us will be a boon for us all, and it will also reverse decades of immigration. It may actually give cause for those who have come here, to return to their homelands.

You could build walls, buy buses, enforce immigration laws to the hilt, and it wouldn't solve a thing, because the risk is worth it to those who have no way to support themselves where they come from. Improve the economies, and the rest takes care of itself.

Deport all illegals, sell the houses cars and items they illegally obtained and use the money to find and deport more of em...and can use the proceeds to protect the borders. If I sell drugs and get busted all of the things I bought with drug money would be gone when I got out of prison. We have to stop rewarding these people for breaking our laws. If they want a better life they need to stand up and do what we did and point that "high powered unity" at their own government. You can bet once they find out that their lives over here will be like a stack of cards just waiting for a neighbor to ask for papers they will stop crossing the border

When you find the illegal and deport them you fingerprint and photograph them, tell them if they are caught again they will work in a labor camp for 2 years and be deported again. Farmers and DOT can pull from these labor camps and the proceeds go for their upkeep and daily security. COST EFFECTIVE!

We can fault them for coming here illegally, but they worked for what they have bought, and you're not going to find too many people willing to jump on board with taking things away from them for any reason.

There's a fundamental difference there. Honest work is not illegal. It's not even illegal for them to work. It is illegal for employers to hire them.

Well actually, their Government is doing all they can at the moment to up their standard of living. Part of that effort includes NAFTA, and we all know how well that is being received at the moment.

Then again, why can't we as fellow human beings, sacrifice so little to improve their outlook, by welcoming the opportunity to perform trade with them, which will pump much needed dollars into their own economy, provide an outlet for goods manufactered here, and give them reason to want to stay down there?

Shutting the doors in their face is not going to solve the problem. Offering them an hand up is the kindest thing we can do, and eventually we all win.

Slavery was once tried in this country, and that didn't fare so well. I hope you're not suggesting that our Government get into the business of enslaving people who are simply trying to survive.

C'mon...we're better than that.

Apparently, not all of us!

If I had 7 kids and 4 working adults in a 2 bedroom apartment the child protection people would be taking the kids. Mexicans do it all the time and are ignored. the women go and make food and jump in their minivans and sell it at construction sites without vendor licenses. They take money from us and send it home doubling or tripling its worth. The Mexico border is no more then a gashing cut that the USA is bleeding from. Its time to swat the mosquito's.
Money obtained from illegal activity should be illegal. We need to punish the landlords and the employers who house and hire them. We need to drop Spanish as a required course in our schools. most of all we as Americans need to stop feeding every stray dog in the world and take care of the ones we have here.

If I break the law I get punished! How many Americans are in workhouses paying restitution for their crimes? are they slaves? No they made a choice and they are paying for it. They take jobs for under minimum wage and the employers love it and then say that the American people don't want to work.
We want to work its just that we don't have 4 people to split the rent with so we cant afford to work for poverty wages!! I want a nation wide calling center set up so regular Americans can check visa's,green cards and show these people we aren't going to bend over and let them take our country. This is a invasion and its time we started handling it like that.