"Actually, their real complaint is that the troops aren't brainwashed and are capable of making an informed decision."

A 2004 Gallup poll of soldiers serving in Iraq, found that 90% believed that Saddam had ordered the attacks of 9/11.

If that many soldiers can believe such BS, where, do you suppose, does it come from? Might it be that, because the military -- therefor the president-- controls their access to information, they were very thoroughly propagandized?

PS: Democrats last week approved a 3.6% pay raise for our troops.

Bush rejected it, however, demanding that 3% was just fine and dandy for our men and women in uniform. He sent them to war without the proper equipment, and, when they returned wounded, he provided the most minimal, paltry, and disgusting care imaginable. DEMOCRATS enacted the largest increase in VA funding in 3 decades.

51 vets ran for office in 2006 -- 49 of them as Democrats.

The Right lives in a FairyWorld Fantasyland provided by FauxNews ...

I just watched this on Dateline. Here is the link.
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Did this person steal "TRICKORTRUCK's" avatar!! But, Trick had better (altho WRONG!) Liberal arguments!!

I think Trick or Truck changed his nick after he got a job and a truck, his arguments sound about the same to me but I'm home more often than you so I see more of them. Darn I wish I wasn't home so much LOL.

Your right on Rigg. Funny how the neocons didn't want to debate that one. I guess they cut n run. THe facts are the facts. And even the best of the spinners cant spin those facts. Keep up the good work.

The reports comming out now say that is the real reason he vetoed to Iraq spending bill. Anybody who read the thing would have seen that those so-called timelines were nonbinding or he could have attached a signing statement to it, but he choose to be a crybaby about it and then try to mislead people as to why he did it.

As far as the troops I thought we already discussed that. The only time this administration is for them is during photo ops.

Instead of fighting amongst ourselves as the politicians want us to do it is time to clean out the House of Representatives and the Senate as well.... There is not a one who is not a traitor to our country and not a one who cares about the American citizen ..... Vote them all out and start over .... They only care about themselves ..... What do they care about immigration it is just more sheep to vote for them and get them elected.... they have there own retirement and health care plan.... They don't rely on the Social Security system they don't care if it goes broke... there secure..... wake up and exercise common sense and vote the whole lot of them out !!!!!!

Remember this,the demos didn't want to give the money to troop equipment,bush has from the start. You demos are beating a dead horse on this one. Get back to reality.

Doesn't matter if it is the fault of the left or right, or if the troops are brainwashed or not.
The reason they fight isn't because of world politics, or any thing as grandiose as that.

They don't have that luxury. They fight for the person on their left, and the person on their right because they know that person will fight for them. That is the only left or right that matters.
God bless them all.

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ahhh. the Repubs controled everything thenn. It was they why underfunded. There are trucks that still has no armor...Rummy lied