Then WHY are we paying pensions to these people???:

Rep. Randal Duke Cunningham, presently serving time after being convicted of taking bribes.

ESTIMATED YEARLY CONGRESSIONAL PENSION, FOR THE REST OF HIS MISERABLE LIFE, UPON RELEASE FROM PRISON: $64,000/Year


Rep. James Traficant, presently serving time after being convicted of 10 felony counts of bribery, racketeering, fraud, tax evasion and obstruction of justice.

ESTIMATED YEARLY CONGRESSIONAL PENSION, FOR THE REST OF HIS MISERABLE LIFE, UPON RELEASE FROM PRISON: $40,000/Year


Rep. Bob Ney, convicted of taking bribes in the Jack Abrahmoff scandal.

ESTIMATED YEARLY CONGRESSIONAL PENSION, FOR THE REST OF HIS MISERABLE LIFE, UPON RELEASE FROM PRISON: $30,000/Year

Freshman Representative Nancy Boyda(D-KS) has introcuced The Pension Forfeiture Act in the US House of Representatives. Unfortunately, the act is being stonewalled by Republicans.

But this isn't a "left" or "right" issue.

It's a "right" or "wrong" issue.

If you have an e-mail alert list, or you're a person who calls your congress person, or if you write letters to the editor -- or if you just cut and paste this somewhere else -- please support Rep. Boyda's efforts somehow.

Transcript of the debate:

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How can the Reps stonewall it when its the Dems that controll
what goes before congress? I think we should add Clinton
to the list, he was convicted of perjury and obstruction of
justice, he well costs us more over the years than any of
those congressmen. Great post, I'm glad you found it.

I agree with this legislation. But I have a feeling it's not going to get through, and it won't be the Republicans stopping it. Lets just watch it and see. lol

Edward Moore Kennedy - Democrat - U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne.

Barney Frank - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1981 to present. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman's Washington apartment for prostitution. A move to expel Frank from the House of Representatives failed and a motion to censure him failed.

Daniel David Rostenkowski - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Illinois from 1959 to 1995. Indicted on 17 felony charges- pleaded guilty to two counts of misuse of public funds and sentenced to seventeen months in federal prison.

Melvin Jay Reynolds - U.S. Representative from Illinois from 1993 to 1995. Convicted on sexual misconduct and obstruction of justice charges and sentenced to five years in prison.

Charles Coles Diggs, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Michigan from 1955 to 1980. Convicted on eleven counts of mail fraud and filing false payroll forms- sentenced to three years in prison.



John Murtha, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania. Implicated in the Abscam sting, in which FBI agents impersonating Arab businessmen offered bribes to political figures; Murtha was cited as an unindicted co-conspirator

Gerry Eastman Studds - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1973 to 1997. The first openly gay member of Congress. Censured by the House of Representatives for having sexual relations with a teenage House page.


Frederick Richmond - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1975 to 1982. Arrested in Washington, D.C., in 1978 for soliciting sex from a minor and from an undercover police officer - pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor. Also - charged with tax evasion, marijuana possession, and improper payments to a federal employee - pleaded guilty.

Raymond Lederer - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1977 to 1981. Implicated in the Abscam sting - convicted of bribery and sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000.

Harrison Arlington Williams, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Senator from New Jersey from 1959 to 1970. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Allegedly accepted an 18% interest in a titanium mine. Convicted of nine counts of bribery, conspiracy, receiving an unlawful gratuity, conflict of interest, and interstate travel in aid of racketeering. Sentenced to three years in prison and fined $50,000.

Frank Thompson, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New Jersey from 1955 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting, convicted on bribery and conspiracy charges. Sentenced to three years in prison

Michael Joseph Myers - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1976 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting - convicted of bribery and conspiracy; sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000; expelled from the House of Representatives on October 2, 1980.

John Michael Murphy - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1963 to 1981. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Convicted of conspiracy, conflict of interest, and accepting an illegal gratuity. Sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000.

John Wilson Jenrette, Jr - Democrat - U.S. Representative from South Carolina from 1975 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Convicted on bribery and conspiracy charges and sentenced to prison

Alcee Lamar Hastings - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Florida. Impeached and removed from office as federal judge in 1989 over bribery charges.


Mario Biaggi - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1969 to 1988. Indicted on federal charges that he had accepted bribes in return for influence on federal contracts.Convicted of obstructing justice and accepting illegal gratuities. Tried in 1988 on federal racketeering charges and convicted on 15 felony counts.

Frank Ballance - Democrat - Congressman North Carolina. Pleaded guilty to one charge of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and money laundering related to mishandling of money by his charitable foundation.

Hazel O'Leary - Democrat - Secretary of Energy during the Clinton Administration - O'leary took trips all over the world as Secretary with as many 50 staff members and at times rented a plane, which was used by Madonna during her concert tours.

Mary Rose Oakar - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Ohio from 1977 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor charges of funneling $16,000 through fake donors.

Edward Mezvinsky - Democrat -U.S. Representative from Iowa from 1973 to 1977. Indicted on 56 federal fraud charges.
hire a hit man to kill his business partner.

James A. Traficant Jr. - Member of House of Representatives from Ohio. Expelled from Congress after being convicted of corruption charges. Sentenced today to eight years in prison for accepting bribes and kickbacks.


Allan Turner Howe - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Utah from 1975 to 1977. Arrested for soliciting a policewoman posing as a prostitute.

Joseph Waggonner Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Louisiana from 1961 to 19 79. Arrested in Washington, D.C. for soliciting a policewoman posing as a prostitute

Albert G. Bustamante - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Texas from 1985 to 1993. Convicted in 1993 on racketeering and bribery charges and sentenced to prison.

Lawrence Jack Smith - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Florida from 1983 to 1993. Sentenced to three months in federal prison for tax evasion.


Walter Fauntroy - Democrat - Delegate to U.S. Congress from the District of Columbia from 1971 to 1991. Charged in federal court with making false statements on financial disclosure forms. Pleaded guilty to one felony count and sentenced to probation.


Nicholas Mavroules - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1979 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to charges of tax fraud and accepting gratuities while in office.


Richard Hanna - Democrat - U.S. Representative from California from 1963 to 1974. Received payments of about $200,000 from a Korean businessman in what became known as the "Koreagate" influence buying scandal. Pleaded guilty and sentenced to federal prison.

Angelo Errichetti - Democrat - New Jersey State Senator was sentenced to six years in prison and fined $40,000 for his involvement in Abscam.

Daniel Baugh Brewster - Democrat - U.S. Senator from Maryland. Indicted on charges of accepting illegal gratuity while in Senate.

Thomas Joseph Dodd - Democrat - U.S. Senator from Connecticut. Censured by the Senate for financial improprieties, having diverted $116,000 in campaign and testimonial funds to his own use


George Crockett, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Michigan. Served four months in federal prison for contempt of court following his defense of a Communist leader on trial for advocating the overthrow of the government.

Cornelius Edward Gallagher - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New Jersey from 1959 to 1973. Indicted on federal charges of income tax evasion, conspiracy, and perjury

Bobby Lee Rush - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Illinois. As a Black Panther, spent six months in prison on a weapons charge.



This is the small list, lol. But here is a few of the DIMS that would be affected by this law.

A lot of DIMS would lose their pension. lol I think it's a good thing.

Sadly, no one on my list, or riggers list would be affected by this law.

SEC. 3. FORFEITURE.

• (a) Civil Service Retirement System- Section 8332 of title 5, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:
  `(o)(1) Notwithstanding any other provision of this subchapter, the service of an individual finally convicted of an offense described in paragraph (2) shall not, if or to the extent rendered as a Member (irrespective of when rendered), be taken into account for purposes of this subchapter. Any such individual (or other person determined under section 8342(c), if applicable) shall be entitled to be paid so much of such individual's lump-sum credit as is attributable to service to which the preceding sentence applies.
  `(2)(A) An offense described in this paragraph is any offense described in subparagraph (B) for which the following apply:
  • `(i) The offense is committed by the individual (referred to in paragraph (1)) while a Member.
    `(ii) The conduct on which the offense is based is directly related to the individual's service as a Member.
    `(iii) The offense is committed after the date of enactment of this Act.

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They have to have that in there for there to be a chance
of passing it. I hope they get if through but I doubt they will.

After reading this bill I wouldn't vote for it either. It doesn't do anything. I'm not a lawyer but the wording almost seems contridictive of the purpose.

Section 3 is pretty clear to me:

(3) An individual finally convicted of an offense described in paragraph (2) shall not, after the date of the conviction, be eligible to participate in the retirement system under this chapter while serving as a Member.

Once convicted and still a member they won't be able to contribute to the fund. Fine.

Sec 4., This is where it starts getting confussing: This is called a loop hole.

(4) Except as provided in paragraph (5), the Office shall prescribe such regulations as may be necessary to carry out this subsection, including provisions under which interest on any lump-sum payment under the second sentence of paragraph (1) shall be limited in a manner similar to that specified in the last sentence of section 8316(b).

They seem to leave it up to the executive director of the thrift savings plan to enforce this legislation.

(5) The Executive Director shall prescribe such regulations as may be necessary to carry out the purposes of this subsection with respect to the Thrift Savings Plan. Regulations under this paragraph shall include provisions requiring the return of all vested amounts which are attributable to periods of service rendered by the individual as a Member (as described in paragraph (1)).

And it seems they won't be getting a monthly pension, but instead it will be a lump sum of the vested amount returned to the convicted criminal. Again tell me if I'm misunderstanding this or what.

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Considering the time frame this bill was originally designed and presented, I say it was a piece of legislation directed solely at Delay. The Dems were trying to get this passed at the time Delay was dealing with the investigation against him. They were trying to get this passed so he would lose his pension, but the 20+ convicted dims before him wouldn't.

Add another Democrat to the list.

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