For somebody called Rationalist, you haven't said much of anything even remotely resembling anything that could be construed as rational.

Man Im getting a vision of some one totening a big sign Saying illigals are human too They will do the work Americans will not do They spend money here too.Bla bla bla I allmost forgot and they mow yards for the polliticians Elcheapo

If it was Al Gore, the yard would be the size of a football field. That's a lot of illegals. Wonder how much pollution all those lawn mowers are putting out for Mr Greener-than-thou?

Maybe they have to use the old push mower with out a gas engine just a clean burning illigal pushing it

Hey!
wait just a minute here!
How do you expect us Americans to be stupid and lazy if we mow our own yards? I got 2 Illeagals who mows my yard.
1 push mowing the yard and the other one cooking on the "Hot Plate"!

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With the economy in such a sour way, I had to let mine go. I could not justify paying them more than I was making....

Very clever. Would you care to address any of the points I've made?

I missed this:
Can you demonstrate that legal people are losing jobs? It seems common on this forum not to post any evidence whatsoever.
For someone who uses "BS" so much, you seem unwilling or unable to do any research.
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BTW, they can't steal jobs from me. I worked my way through college and have two degrees.

They pay taxes? They're not supposed to! Only citizens get to pay taxes so they can reap the benefits of them. They can and WILL steal jobs from Americans if companies realize that they can hire illegals for much cheaper and not even have to give health insurance. You keep dismissing illegals as petty little things like jay-walkers and loiterers, but the fact remains that illegals cause untold damage to society, not just in monetary value, both by their refusal to assimilate and in the crimes they commit.

Okay, I'll address this one!

In 1967, my father's family worked in the fields, picking fruit, and cleaning orchards. They made minimum wage plus about 50cents more... Between Grandpa, Dad, and Uncle Bob, they were making it pretty good.

In 1968, Grandpa went back to the same orchard and was refused work, because the man said he had no work for him. He had hired a group of illegals to do the same job for 50cents less than minimum wage.

In 2001, shortly after the citrus froze, my husband was laid off. When the packing plant picked up work again and he tried to go back, he was refused. They had picked up a bunch of the children of those who stolen my father's, uncle's and grandfather's jobs. Technically, they are citizens, because of our laws, I'll concede that. But their parents came here illegally, and stole jobs, and because they were here, their children were, or my hubby would still have that job!

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