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Old 08.20.2008
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I didn't say YOU were a college student, but YOU DID compare this forum with a "college classroom". I have no knowledge if or when you graduated.......neither do I care. And I never implied you were dumber than me. Who is the one with "thin skin", again?
all day i have had a hard time understanding your passion over this. however, after going back and reading what i wrote, i can understand how someone would take offense to it. i want to reiterate that i really don't want to make waves like that here ... my apologies.
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That's a strawman. Some laws aren't as important, yes, but I never said that people shouldn't obey laws. Not only would that go against my personal code, but I suspect that it may break forum rules.
B.S. (read below)

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What I am saying, though, is that while illegal guest workers are breaking the law by being in the US, they aren't doing a lot of harm beyond that.
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The jobs they take are extremely low paying, often below minimum wage. They all pay sales taxes, and most of them pay income taxes.
B.S. The jobs they take that are "extremely low paying" are low paying because the people who hire KNOW they are illegal and PAY THEM LESS because they are less likely to complain. The jobs they take are not ONLY the agriculture jobs, but also building construction, roofing, masonry, landscaping, and other skilled jobs including road construction jobs that were traditionally well paying jobs. Caezar Chavez fought to Unionize AG workers in California during the 70's and 80's to give LEGAL farm workers a living wage. UFW is AGAINST illegal workers because they put (LEGAL) UNION workers out of jobs.
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They spend a lot of the money they earn in the US. Most importantly, they are an economic boon; they do more work for less money.
B.S. They send MORE of their money back home. For the most part, illegals will live 20 to 30 in a single family dwelling in order to save money. Tehy do work for LESS money because employers take advantage of them because they are ILLEGAL.
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Doing more work for less money means that they are a more efficient part of the US economy. Without them most food production in the US could collapse.
B.S. more work for less money only means that hispanics are the NEW "Slave Class" in America. And less than 2% of the illegals are working in AG industries. The rest steal jobs from YOU, ME and my next door neighbor.
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From the US Census
Los Angeles County, Calif., had the largest minority population in the country in 2006. At 7 million, or 71 percent of its total, Los Angeles County is home to one in every 14 of the nation’s minority residents. The county’s minority population is higher than the total population of 38 states, with the largest population of Hispanics
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Hispanic birth rates account for more than half. If they are not half of the population that goes to show this demographic is having children at a ridiculous rate. So whether they are jumping over a fence, swimming or being born here they are multiplying in this country at a huge rate. I guess I better start learning spanish. Even though I have traveled all over the world on just English it is amazing to me that I need to speak Spanish in my own Country.
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I don't care who you are or what your circumstances are. If you come to this country and want to benefit from the freedoms it provides to it's citizens (and unfortuneately illegals ) learn English. If you want in so bad and you want to reap the benefits of living here prove it. Assimilate or go home.

While I'm on this little rant, I can't stand people who say they are "African-American" "Chinese-American" "German-American." Guess what pal, if you didn't just get off the boat and you were born here legally, you are AMERICAN first! I've said it before, be proud of your herritage but damnit be proud of being an American First. This goes for naturalized citizens too. If you go through the hassle of getting a green card, why would you not want to brag about being a citizen?
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Guest workers are responsible for nearly all picking and processing of produce in the state, which means thousands upon thousands of jobs for truckers.
Umm....they are not guests, guests will go home when you ask them to.
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Umm....they are not guests, guests will go home when you ask them to.

LOL that is a very good point...
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Hispanic birth rates account for more than half. If they are not half of the population that goes to show this demographic is having children at a ridiculous rate. So whether they are jumping over a fence, swimming or being born here they are multiplying in this country at a huge rate. I guess I better start learning spanish. Even though I have traveled all over the world on just English it is amazing to me that I need to speak Spanish in my own Country.
Yes having those Illigal kids here in the USA but the money they make does not pay hospital bills.We do!!!! Seems funny they are Illigal but cops doesnt bother them because its to much trouble.They stand around stores in groups harrassing people Their kids go to school but still its to much trouble BS the thing is there is no money to be made if the Government would pay a bounty to the local law it would be less trouble then.
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Umm....they are not guests, guests will go home when you ask them to.
Screw that, guest are invited in the first place.
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Yes having those Illigal kids here in the USA but the money they make does not pay hospital bills.We do!!!! Seems funny they are Illigal but cops doesnt bother them because its to much trouble.They stand around stores in groups harrassing people Their kids go to school but still its to much trouble BS the thing is there is no money to be made if the Government would pay a bounty to the local law it would be less trouble then.

I see you are from Texas... I feel for you man. I never seen so many Illegal Mexican in my life gathered in 1 spot till I went to Huston Texas.. I have been all over the southern border, all over cali (even lived there for a short) New Mexico, Arizona you name it I been there probably..

One day I was in Huston and had this load I had to deliver to several stores.. You probably already know the one before I say it.. Home Depot
I pulled into this one and I kid you not there had to be more then 200 Mexicans in that parking lot.. looked like a freakin fair was going on or something..I had trouble getting back to the dock without running over a few. I went back and delivered the load, I asked what is going on up there and the guy said its like that everyday. I said why? he said they hang out there in the mornings looking for work.. I said 200 of them? he said yup everyday...
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