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"1" For English; "2" For Spanish: HOW MUCH INCONVENIENCE MUST WE TOLERATE???

I've seen this twice now: on the Republican debate (Tancredo), and on Lou Dobbs. Struggling for examples of the harsh realities facing Americans in a multicultural society, both mentioned the horrendous labor forced upon us by virtue of having to press a zero-resistance button with one finger on an implement held in one's opposing hand.

This makes me friggin' ill.

Tancredo said, "we're becoming a bilingual society, and that's a disaster."

First of all, is there any evidence that we're becoming a "bilingual society?" The last I heard, people around the world can speak 5 or six languages; we're still struggling with English..

"Official English" is not going to get rid of "press one for English." Corporations are savvy enough that they're not going to alienate a quarter of potential customers by refusing to speak their language.

What it WILL do is cut funding for translators in hospital ER's, among police officers, court workers, and in every other "official" capacity. Net result? We'll have millions of people unable to explain to anyone that Pedro has symptoms of smallpox; that there's a rapist in the neighborhood, and "he went thataway;" or that "yes, I witnessed the crime, and I'd like to testify."

This, like "gay marriage" and "flag burning," is another attempt to influence the prejudices of small-minded people into voting against their own interests.

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Do you really believe half the crap you spill? Are you still taking your meds?


The United States is an English speaking country, and your wrong about most countries can speak 5 or 6 languages, Most countries in Europe can speak their native language, and some people know English and French (BASICS), mainly in areas of high commerce and tourism. Just like in New York. You can walk down the street depending on what side of town your on, and hear 5 different languages in numerous dialects easily. The problem is, with this Hispanic thing, why should we be so accommodating to people that shouldn't be here in the first place. Why should we have to cater to them, because their inconvenienced, and won't speak or learn our language. It's part of our sovereignty as an independent nation.

When we become accommodating in this fashion, what motivates them to become legalized American citizens? It's not about pushing a button for English or Spanish, it's the fact they don't have to meet the basic standards that is determined by law to be United States citizens. Why should we be so accommodating to them? What law, what Constitutional directive states we have the responsibility to bend over backwards to invaders of this country?


A requirement to be a naturalized American citizen:

The ability to read, write and speak ordinary English unless they are physically unable to do so due to a disability such as being blind or deaf, or suffer from a developmental disability or mental impairment. Those over 50 years old on the date of filing who have lived here for a total of at least 20 years after admission as a permanent resident and those who are over 55 and have been legal permanent residents for at least 15 years are also exempt from this requirement.

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Its the companies who are accommodating, they will do whatever to make the money and it should be against the law, and they need to stop. Who cares if they can't understand. Don't speak or understand English, to bad, we can't help.
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Its the companies who are accommodating, they will do whatever to make the money and it should be against the law, and they need to stop. Who cares if they can't understand. Don't speak or understand English, to bad, we can't help.

I agree 100 percent. It's like this thing Bank America was doing a month or so ago. Offering special mortgages and credit cards to illegal’s here in the United States. With businesses it's all about the money, with politicians its all about the votes. The bottom line, Joe Blow (American) is left holding the bag.
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Minorities getting closer to the majority
Hispanics are fastest-growing group, increasingly U.S.-born

Thursday, May 11, 2006; Posted: 9:10 a.m. EDT (13:10 GMT)

(CNN) -- The influence of traditional minorities in the United States will continue to grow, new Census Bureau statistics suggest, with Hispanics born as American citizens accounting for more than a third of the population increase last year.

Bureau figures released Wednesday show the U.S. population grew by 2.8 million between July 1, 2004, and July 1, 2005. Hispanics accounted for 1.3 million of that increase, with 800,000 attributable to natural causes -- births minus deaths -- rather than immigration.

Coupled with the high birth rate for Hispanics -- the Population Resource Center cites statistics showing the average Hispanic woman will have three children in her lifetime; it's 1.8 for non-Hispanic whites -- the number means Hispanics will make up an increasing share of the citizenry. (Watch how these population changes will alter the political landscape -- 1:45)

"It mutes the illegal-versus-legal debate," said Linda Jacobsen, director of domestic programs for the Population Reference Bureau in Washington. "We need to be more focused on how we meet the needs of children in immigrant families who are citizens."

Census statistics also show that 45 percent of children under age 5 are from a racial or ethnic minority.

About a third of Hispanics were younger than 18, compared with a fourth of the population in general, the bureau said.

The median age for Hispanics -- the point at which half are older and half are younger -- was 27.2 years in 2005. It was 30.0 years for blacks and 40.3 years for white non-Hispanics.

For Census measurements, Hispanics can be of any race. The following numbers include people who reported a race alone or in combination with one or more other races.

The overall U.S. population totaled 296.4 million in 2005; 33 percent of that number, or 98 million, were minorities.

Hispanics remained the largest minority group at 42.7 million. They were the fastest growing group from 2004 to 2005, with a 3.3 percent increase.

Blacks represented the second largest minority group, with 39.7 million people and a 1.3 percent increase from 2004 to 2005.

They were followed by Asians (14.4 million; 3 percent increase); American Indians and Alaska natives (4.5 million; 1 percent increase); and native Hawaiians and other Pacific islanders (990,000; 1.5 percent increase).

The number of non-Hispanic whites indicating no other race in 2005 totaled 198.4 million, an increase of 0.3 percent.
Growing clout

Because there is only one death for every 8.2 Hispanic births in the U.S., according to Census estimates, the U.S.-born Hispanic population can only be expected to grow.

With growth will come increased economic and political clout.

"Already, Hispanics are an economic force, and because they are growing in number, that won't change," said Jacobsen, who added that corporate America is taking notice.

"They've become more politically and socially visible," she told AP. "It's never been this vocal."

Poster Comment: At some point in the not too distant future, Hispanic Americans will be the 51% majority and will be the "1" button, NOT "2"!!!
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I find it offencive to have to press one for english. It's also offencive to call for microsoft support and get someone in Kenya, who talks too fast and with very broken english. Also, when i talk AOL support and get someone in egypt, ir india, and have to struggle with their english. I thought it was "American" online. Sure this is a multi-cultural society, but that don't mean they can't learn english before they get here.
Barac Hussein Oboma(nation) stated in the Dems debate, that "they will learn English in a short time". LOL< I know some Mexicans who have been here for 20 years and still don't know english.
English should not only be our National language, but our Official language.
Who cares what the other countries are doing? I think if we were more like austraila, who never gets into a conflick with anyone, who minds their own business, we would be better off.
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Minorities getting closer to the majority
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This is a horribly misleading article. I'm frankly stunned that CNN would post such a thing.

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The overall U.S. population totaled 296.4 million in 2005; 33 percent of that number, or 98 million, were minorities.
TRANSLATION: 67% are White.


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Hispanics remained the largest minority group at 42.7 million.

TRANSLATION: Hispanics are less than 1/2 of that percentage, somewhere around 14% of the American population.

People who lump African Americans and Asians and Hispanics all in the same category as some sort of "minority invasion" don't have a clue about the disparities in these cultures.


Sometimes my fellow Americans are so freaking pansy in their support for liberty I have to wonder ...
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This is a horribly misleading article. I'm frankly stunned that CNN would post such a thing.
LOL, I guess you don't like it when they don't spoon feed you everything you want to hear. I will admit I'm surprised CNN took this position, it's obviously out of character for them to report the facts, instead of manipulating them.


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TRANSLATION: 67% are White.
I use to work with a guy like you. He actually had a complex about being a white guy. He was a dead head liberal too. What's the problem with being white in this country? Why is it becomming such sin?



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TRANSLATION: Hispanics are less than 1/2 of that percentage, somewhere around 14% of the American population.

People who lump African Americans and Asians and Hispanics all in the same category as some sort of "minority invasion" don't have a clue about the disparities in these cultures.


Sometimes my fellow Americans are so freaking pansy in their support for liberty I have to wonder ...
Liberty in this country is a live and well, but also liberty in this country should be for the citizens of this country not for every poor, ragged Mexican that needs a job. You need to understand this country is a sovereign nation with laws, borders, and an identity. The Mexicans are draining our natural resources like parasites, they are draining our economic resources like parasites. We are not responsible for these people. Why should any American (born or legally naturalized) be in competition with people that won't respect our sovereignty, our laws and our way of life?

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Like my new hero, former Senator and the next President of the United States Fred Thompson said recently, "this is our home and we get to decide who comes in"

Stop the madness and start rounding them up.
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