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Thumbs down America has 'no stomach' for war!

And, our enemy knows that!! They are the Rocky challenger 'eye of the tiger,' and we are the fat, out-of-shape former world champions that are going to let them walk over us!! We are in a 'WAR' that we didnt start or want (back off spineless Libs!) but is coming to us! We cant get out of it, chicken b-tts, we are in it whether we like it or not!! Get that into your thick, peacenik little skulls!! We can only (pick an option): (1) delay the inevitable war that will involve the whole world in one way or another by withdrawing and backpeddling, (2) Give up and let them wear us down do to our lack of a 'stomach for war,' or (3) Go on a pre-emptive attack on all nations that are threatening us with some chance of actually winning (or just destroying those nations and leaving in ruins!). Take you pick all you faint of hearts---thats the options we have...
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Who really has the stomach for war?

I don't. War is the last thing I want to see, but I do beleive you're right and it's going to happen someday. Lets look where we are at right now. we're not in a position to protect ourselves in a real war. Our men and women of the military are tired. Our resources are spread thin, hell we don't even have the resources to manage a natural disaster right now. We have a President in complete denial, and congress that's playing games at the expense of all Americans.
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We are in a 'WAR' that we didnt start
Maybe Afghanistan, but facts are we are in Iraq because Saddam did not want to comply with UN resolutions (the same agency pubs slam), so what people everyday don't do what others want. Facts are IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11, we fired on them so get over it, the Bush loser started this war.

Now if you want to talk about Afghanistan, maybe a legitimate argument, except pubs have no clue how to run or win a war, they should take a play book from Truman. Even from day one when they had the go ahead pubs should have bombed the daylights out of the mountains on both sides, Afghanistan, and Pakistan but their poor poor morals of collateral damage stop pubs from having a backbone in war. They much prefer to draw it out for years, and spend billions, when they should have taken care of it from the beginning.

Then they wonder why they loose support for mismanagement, and spending beyond anyones wildest dreams, well hello pubs, get a clue.
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Who really has the stomach for war?

I don't. War is the last thing I want to see, but I do beleive you're right and it's going to happen someday. Lets look where we are at right now. we're not in a position to protect ourselves in a real war. Our men and women of the military are tired. Our resources are spread thin, hell we don't even have the resources to manage a natural disaster right now. We have a President in complete denial, and congress that's playing games at the expense of all Americans.
..but we dont have a choice!!! Our only choice is to 'win the war' or 'lose the war!! That's all the options we have...

I say leave Iraq to their own destruction and reposition our troops---not at home---but in Afghanistan along Iranian & Pakistani borders for 'future deployment to the next 'stage' of the war on terror!! It's just 'denial' thinking all will be well if we leave...
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We've got plenty of resources, just can't use any of it. Afraid of collateral damage.

What can a suicide bomber do to an F-16 or B-2 Bomber? not much.
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We've got plenty of resources, just can't use any of it. Afraid of collateral damage.

What can a suicide bomber do to an F-16 or B-2 Bomber? not much.
That's true, we have a lot of bombs and missles I guess. But we all know to control the ground takes more than air power. You simply can't blow up everything.
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..but we dont have a choice!!! Our only choice is to 'win the war' or 'lose the war!! That's all the options we have...

I say leave Iraq to their own destruction and reposition our troops---not at home---but in Afghanistan along Iranian & Pakistani borders for 'future deployment to the next 'stage' of the war on terror!! It's just 'denial' thinking all will be well if we leave...
Right now, what would happen if we went to war with pakistan or Iran. Do we have the resources to maintian that kind of combat, under the organization we are in right now? I don't think we can. Iran and Pakistan is something we need to be concerned about and get ready for, because you're right in the next 3 years this going to happen.
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Thumbs down Thought I told you 'spineless Lib's to back off!

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Maybe Afghanistan, but facts are we are in Iraq because Saddam did not want to comply with UN resolutions (the same agency pubs slam), so what people everyday don't do what others want. Facts are IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11, we fired on them so get over it, the Bush loser started this war.

Now if you want to talk about Afghanistan, maybe a legitimate argument, except pubs have no clue how to run or win a war, they should take a play book from Truman. Even from day one when they had the go ahead pubs should have bombed the daylights out of the mountains on both sides, Afghanistan, and Pakistan but their poor poor morals of collateral damage stop pubs from having a backbone in war. They much prefer to draw it out for years, and spend billions, when they should have taken care of it from the beginning.

Then they wonder why they loose support for mismanagement, and spending beyond anyones wildest dreams, well hello pubs, get a clue.
The Middle -East will ALL be involved with this global war on terror---dont you understand Iran et al's threat on Israel as the Little Satan and the U.S. as the Great Satan?! Playing the tit-for-tat, symantecs game and not accepting the fact that it is a war of ideologies and that we fight over there, and/or here!! Looks like both to me! And, yes, WAR is $$$$$$$! So what do you think, that this is video games?!!
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So what do you think, that this is video games?!!
No cause I don't have a problem with turning the middle east into a parking lot. And the scare tactics that somehow millions of fanatical Islam extremists are going to get here and start something is just another episode of fear factor.
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No cause I don't have a problem with turning the middle east into a parking lot. And the scare tactics that somehow millions of fanatical Islam extremists are going to get here and start something is just another episode of fear factor.
You are trying to live a rational life in an unrational world full of irrational religious fanatics!! Start kissing your wife & children 'goodbye!'
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