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travelingman · **^ Top** #21 07.16.2007

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Originally Posted by Lucky142

How many illegal aliens where already in this country when Bush took office?

I am especially disturbed by our presidents recent push for illegals to jump to the head of the line. I know a fellow who has been trying to become a US citizen for 7 years and still is waiting. This guy should be ahead of those that were going to get a bump in the line had the Presidents plan passed. THANK GOD it did not. I hope it doesn't raise it's ugly head again any time soon.

Just my opinion!

Lucky142 · **^ Top** #22 07.17.2007

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Originally Posted by travelingman

I am especially disturbed by our presidents recent push for illegals to jump to the head of the line. I know a fellow who has been trying to become a US citizen for 7 years and still is waiting. This guy should be ahead of those that were going to get a bump in the line had the Presidents plan passed. THANK GOD it did not. I hope it doesn't raise it's ugly head again any time soon.

Just my opinion!

President Bush is between a rock and a hard place over Illegal aliens. The problem has been passed down for almost a century. One President, many years ago, sent Mexicans packing back across the board. I think it is the only answer this time. But many woul disagree with me.

If they are illegal, they have broken the law. Send them Packing.

No child should be eligible for citizenship just because they were born in the US. The parents must be working legally within the US at time of birth.

hrdman2luv · **^ Top** #23 07.17.2007

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Originally Posted by Lucky142

President Bush is between a rock and a hard place over Illegal aliens. The problem has been passed down for almost a century. One President, many years ago, sent Mexicans packing back across the board. I think it is the only answer this time. But many woul disagree with me.

If they are illegal, they have broken the law. Send them Packing.

No child should be eligible for citizenship just because they were born in the US. The parents must be working legally within the US at time of birth.

Until dubya secures the border with armed soldiers, our borders will always be accessable to illegals. The mention of immigration reform is useless without a secured border. But Bush will not do that. He has been pushing for open borders since 2001. He wants a North American Union. A Security and Prosperity Partnership, and cheap labor for the Rich corperations. And Sir, that is the facts.
"What you do means a whole lot more than anything you've got to say" And that Good advise that Dubya needs to hear.

Truck Vet · **^ Top** #24 07.17.2007

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Originally Posted by hrdman2luv

Until dubya secures the border with armed soldiers, our borders will always be accessable to illegals. The mention of immigration reform is useless without a secured border. But Bush will not do that. He has been pushing for open borders since 2001. He wants a North American Union. A Security and Prosperity Partnership, and cheap labor for the Rich corperations. And Sir, that is the facts.
"What you do means a whole lot more than anything you've got to say" And that Good advise that Dubya needs to hear.

Bush and the Reps have done more to close our Southern borders than
the Dems did the whole time they were in the Majority. What other
President started a fence? Sure its not enough but its a lot more than
this Dem congress has even considerd doing. Its the Dems that need the
hispanics to get elected and once Hillary is in who knows what promises
she will fullfill to the hispanics as pay back. Don't forget the Dems have
controled the Federal government a lot more than the Reps for the last
thirty years.

hrdman2luv · **^ Top** #25 07.17.2007

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Originally Posted by Truck Vet

Bush and the Reps have done more to close our Southern borders than
the Dems did the whole time they were in the Majority. What other
President started a fence? Sure its not enough but its a lot more than
this Dem congress has even considerd doing. Its the Dems that need the
hispanics to get elected and once Hillary is in who knows what promises
she will fullfill to the hispanics as pay back. Don't forget the Dems have
controled the Federal government a lot more than the Reps for the last
thirty years.

There you go again Truck Vet. Same ole blame the dems and the Clintons who are not in charge and do not have a large enough majority in congress to do anything. The repubs only voted on teh fence because it was becomeing a hot topic and Americans were finally seeing the impact on illiegals in this country. A 10 ft. Fence? Thats a joke. And the punch line is either a shovel or a ladder.
Real border security Bush does not want. He has proven that by not giving a presidential pardon to the 2 border guards.
Bush it the Commander in Chief/theif, he could put soldiers on the border, and really secure it. But he won't, and you know it.
Under Clintons reign, illegal immigration was not that big of a threat. They were still picking oranges and doing jobs that Americans would not do. But now, after Bush has taken office, the flood of illegals into this country has gone crazy. 20 Million is an invasion. And just because they didn't come here in one day, doesn't mean their intent is any less.
They want our jobs, our money and our welfare. And Bush doesn't want to stop them from having it.

A fence without apropriations........thats funny.

Lucky142 · **^ Top** #26 07.18.2007

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Originally Posted by hrdman2luv

Until dubya secures the border with armed soldiers, our borders will always be accessable to illegals. The mention of immigration reform is useless without a secured border. But Bush will not do that. He has been pushing for open borders since 2001. He wants a North American Union. A Security and Prosperity Partnership, and cheap labor for the Rich corperations. And Sir, that is the facts.
"What you do means a whole lot more than anything you've got to say" And that Good advise that Dubya needs to hear.

The North American Union is only a device to implement the plan that is over 100 years old. dubya was not even born when that all started.

Do you know what it is I am referring to?

The Democrats are the one's who do not want to spend the money to secure the borders. It has been said many times in recent history that the cost of securing the boarders would be much cheaper than the cost of Illegals in our country. Duh!

As far as cheap labor, that has always been a problem. Why do you think the US Department of Transportation was total deregulated without any protection from Greed, Graft and Corruption?

You have a valid complaint about Illegals, but you don't comprehend the cause or the cure; at least I have not heard you mention these two items yet! (?)

hrdman2luv · **^ Top** #27 07.18.2007

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Originally Posted by Lucky142

You have a valid complaint about Illegals, but you don't comprehend the cause or the cure; at least I have not heard you mention these two items yet! (?)

Cause: Because the illegals don't have the backbone to stand up against the veryones that keep them down. Because our government won't secure our border. Because our government won't stamp out highering illegals. Because our government won't stop property owners from renting their property to illegals. Because our government won't stop financial institutions from lending money or giving credit cards to illegals. Because our government won't stop states from granting drivers licences to illegals.

Solution: Secure the borders, deport all that we have in cusody in our prisons and jails. Then go after the ones wanted by the law, gang members, and the bums one the street. Then go after the walfare recipients.
With all the money your saving in our jails, prisons, and welfare, could go to pay officers, border patrol, and CIA to tract down employers who are employing illegals who are doing jobs that Americans would do.
Cause and solution

firstcav · **^ Top** #28 07.18.2007

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Originally Posted by hrdman2luv

Cause: Because the illegals don't have the backbone to stand up against the veryones that keep them down. Because our government won't secure our border. Because our government won't stamp out highering illegals. Because our government won't stop property owners from renting their property to illegals. Because our government won't stop financial institutions from lending money or giving credit cards to illegals. Because our government won't stop states from granting drivers licences to illegals.

Solution: Secure the borders, deport all that we have in cusody in our prisons and jails. Then go after the ones wanted by the law, gang members, and the bums one the street. Then go after the walfare recipients.
With all the money your saving in our jails, prisons, and welfare, could go to pay officers, border patrol, and CIA to tract down employers who are employing illegals who are doing jobs that Americans would do.
Cause and solution

I don't think the Democrat controlled congress will like this idea.

Trucker.W · **^ Top** #29 07.18.2007

The republican president would not like that, he would loose his ranch hands.

Truck Vet · **^ Top** #30 07.18.2007

You don't even have to deport the illegals. IF everyone gets behind
securing the border that will solve the problem not just
for illegals but also for illegal drug inports and the possibility
of terrorists coming in there. But no one wants to help Bush
make that fence work. You put cameras and high voltage, you
put crews to work finding tunnels, that would pay for itself
in what we save that is given to the illegals. New Flash!
Bush is not up for reelection! If the Dems fund the fence
they can blame Bush and still get the Mexican vote, but
make America safer. But of course they are too busy
trieing to distroy Bush to care about America.

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