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It's a free speech issue. if some loonies want to keep people like Teddy Kennedy in office then it is their right, the term limits thing is designed to get rid of politicians in other areas that you cannot vote out. it's not that fair. We as Americans get to vote for our representatives in our communities and states. Just because there are other states that elect crackpots and criminals, that's for them to decide.



Some states have term limits on different offices and that seems to be constitutional.


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You really need to investigate news stories like these and not believe the partisan press that put it out.
It was NOT a welfare for illegals bill.
It was a continuation of a program that was passed by the REPUBLICAN CONGRESS 10 years ago!
It deals soley with the American born children of immigrants giving them insurance coverage for health care as native born US citizens.
The walk-out was STAGED by the republicans who lost in their attempt to block the renewal of the program (btw, Bush has promised to veto the bill because the financing is set to come from increased tobacco company taxation so this whole fiasco is moot, the bill will die on his desk in September).
The bill was TIED at 214:214 when the gavel came down and the Chair announced the vote. A tie means Republicans failed to garner the votes to defeat it. The vote was reopened, and the final vote was 225:204, had the gavel not come down in the first place, they STILL would have lost.
Meanwhile, the republicans staged a tele-prompter to show the incomplete vote, 213:215 with the words SHAME SHAME SHAME superimposed on it while cameras captured them standing and chanting the same words. THAT image is what they released to every news outlet, including CNN who then ran the story.
It was just a matter of hours before the facts came out.

It was another example of Republican rhetoric being ratcheted up to the level of out right lies to the American people. It was not a bill giving HEALTH CARE FOR ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS as they suggested, and they failed to block it when the vote was tied 214:214 at the time the vote gaveled.
Don't believe me? Look it up for once.
You might want to do a youtube search, "house floor erupts in chaos", its a ten minute clip of the proceedings.
There is no spin on this clip, it shows how it happened.
If Dem's did not nothing wrong, why did they agree to an investigation?
Don't let your hatred for all things republican get in the way of facts.
McNulty was clueless, and all the House minions scurried around like mice.
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YOU TUBE????
My god man, grow up.
Google real news and find the real story.
It was spun.
It was not health care for all immigrants.
The Chair gaveled the vote and announced 214:214.
Period.
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C-span is more accurate than Google.
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Video is video. No matter where it comes from.
Like in F 9/11 when Bush calls on all nations to help fight the war on Terror. Then holds up a golf club and says "Now watch this drive" You can't argue with the video. He didn't care about osama, 9/11 or terrorist or even the American People.
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the congressional record is more accurate than c=span.

"Hatred for all things republican" ?
You dont even know me to be throwing accusations out -
I keep a blog elsewhere and even started a post in defense of the republicans and the report that I had seen (Lou Dobbs) on CNN.
BUT, I research before I write things down as fact and that is when the actual chain of events was revealed, including that all those 'reports', including one on youtube, came directly from the republican side.
Did you know that the walk out occurred despite the call (by Democrat Steny Stoyer?) and agreement to, a recount?
You prefer to say they were 'scurrying' but they were willing to have it looked into right then and there.
That the tally machine (that displayed the incorrect vote Thursday night) was broken on Friday?
That the House clerk read the vote to the Chair who then gaveled the vote "failure"?
Even Lou Dobbs was wrong on cnn and THAT is what my research showed and how my blog report eventually ended up.
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Whatever, the Dem's tried to pull a fast one and got called on it.
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yeah, the republicans lied on the floor of the senate and got called on it, and lost. whatever.
you should try truth sometime, they say it will set you free.
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yeah, the republicans lied on the floor of the senate and got called on it, and lost. whatever.
you should try truth sometime, they say it will set you free.
Exactly how did Republican's lie? Facts please, not your spin.
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I have to admit i am totally eating this up. I've had a smile on my face since i heard about it and watched the video. feel free to blast away but the republicans are reaping what they sow. they pulled a ton of antics with the democrats when they were in power. threatening to use the nuclear option to block their filibusters among other things seems now the shoe is on the other foot. and just like McDonalds...I'm lov'n it!!
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