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Bush warns of nuclear-armed Iran

By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer
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LANCASTER, Pa. - President Bush warned Wednesday of a nuclear-armed Iran but did not rule out that the United States would negotiate with its provocative leader if he gives up his suspected nuclear weapons ambitions.

Bush said it's important for the United States to stay engaged in neighboring Iraq to convince the Iranians that the U.S. is committed to democratic reform in the region. "There would be nothing worse for world peace than if the Iranians believed that the United States did not have the will and commitment to help young democracies survive," Bush told businessmen and women where he took questions after a talk on government spending.
"If we left before the job was done, there would be chaos," Bush said about withdrawing U.S. troops prematurely from Iraq. "Chaos would embolden not only the extremists and radicals that would like to do us harm, but it would also embolden Iran. What you don't want is to have a nuclear arms race taking place in the Middle East."

He denounced Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for his remarks about destroying Israel.

"In Iran, we're dealing with a country where the leader has said that he wants to destroy Israel," Bush said. "My belief is that the United States will defend our ally Israel. This is a leader who has made very provocative statements. And, we have made it clear, however, that in spite of that, we are willing to sit down with him, so long as he suspends his program."
"In other words, it's his choice, it's not mine anymore. So I believe that's the best way to achieve an objective," the president added.

"If your question is, will you ever sit down with them? We've proven we would with North Korea. And the answer is yeah, just so long as we can achieve something, so long as we are able to get our objective."
Bush traveled to Pennsylvania Dutch country after vetoing a bill that would have expanded health insurance coverage for children. He spoke before members of the Lancaster Chamber of Commerce and Industry in a Republican-friendly enclave of the state.

Bush, who has threatened to veto 9 of 12 annual appropriations bills, wants the GOP to be seen as the party of fiscal disciplinarians. Democrats, however, say the billions spent on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan dwarf the far smaller increases they want in domestic programs.

Bush said the five-year budget proposed by the Democratic leadership of Congress would increase spending by $205 billion over five years.
"All these programs sound wonderful," he said. "Except how are you going to pay for it? ... And the answer is raising taxes."
The president's motorcade winded through cornfields and tidy neighborhoods on its way to a warehouse, owned by The Jay Group, a marketing firm. About 70 pro- and anti-Bush demonstrators stood outside.
Nick Meley, a 52-year-old contractor from Columbia, held a sign calling Bush the "worst president ever."

"Do I need to say Iraq? Every part of that, from the beginning to where we are now, has been mistake after mistake after mistake," he said.
A Bush supporter, Louis Gable, an 82-year-old World War II vet from Lancaster, said there are no simple answers to the war. "Everyone tries to second-guess," he said. "What would you or I do if we were there?"

Basically what we have here is 2002 all over again. Bush thinks he's the King, and so far, thanks to the republicans best friends (the democrats) he is.
A war with Iran means even more legitimate reason to impeach Bush before he can proceed any further. But, as I said, the dems aren't about to stop him, so whats the answer?
Remember, Iran is 3 times the size, has 4 times the military and resourses to defend itself. And more people in Iran hate Americans(for this simple reason, they think we are the terrorist). Which means we would have more attacks and more deaths of American soldiers. The NEOCONS can blame the soldiers for signing up for military service. But, I don't think they signed up for this.
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Here we go.... a war with Iran is the last thing we need.
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OK i;ll bite. Whats the answer.

I don't want war with Iran . Do we go in and stop the nuclear bomb making before he has one or do we wait until he uses it?

We do have the obligation to defend Israel or what will remain.

So I'm asking what would you do ?
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Here we go.... a war with Iran is the last thing we need.
Air Force isn't very busy these days.


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OK i;ll bite. Whats the answer.

I don't want war with Iran . Do we go in and stop the nuclear bomb making before he has one or do we wait until he uses it?

We do have the obligation to defend Israel or what will remain.

So I'm asking what would you do ?
we have a obligation??????we have done far more for them then they could ever do for us. We owe them nothing.
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we have a obligation??????we have done far more for them then they could ever do for us. We owe them nothing.
Nice try at dodge ball.

We do have treaties with them directly and through NATO/ICP

So again what would you do ?
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we have a obligation??????we have done far more for them then they could ever do for us. We owe them nothing.
WoW I agree with you completely on that one..now that we've declared war on Terrorism and any where that Terrorist can be found (as long as it isn't Bin Laudin) we can bomb the hell out of anyone we want!!! What's his latest BS...Treaties...we don't need no stinking treaties...

Sorry got off on a tangent...the man is a lunatic...If Iran wanted to drop a nuke they would have done it already...Chicken Hawks everyone and all without a plan...not any of you...Geo. and his posse...

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Nice try at dodge ball.

We do have treaties with them directly and through NATO/ICP

So again what would you do ?
Cant do nothin unfortunitly all you can do is watch it unfold on tv
and wait until DUMBO and the rest of his lackies leave office .
I will hope for ron paul 08
and Will support that effort
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Cant do nothin unfortunitly all you can do is watch it unfold on tv
and wait until DUMBO and the rest of his lackies leave office .
I will hope for ron paul 08
and Will support that effort
Do you have any real hope there will be anything left...money, army, marines, equipment, credibility??

Notice how not one of them has served in the armed service? NO...GW didn't show up...he just served enough to get his deferment....

KJ

On edit...TruckingBum...there's a lot I like about Ron Paul..he's smart (how refreshing), articulate (ditto), has a plan (novel concept) and understand the economy....he just goes to far in some areas I can' t get behind...I won't vote for him., probably....=0)
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I won't vote for him., probably....=0)
Thats ok its a free world you can vote for whom ever you want
however i think your best bet should be placed on ron paul,
Remember bill clinton nobody thought he had a chance in hell either.

Ron paul does what he says
hes known for voting down frivlous spending bills, they call him mr no
please give mr no a chance and your vote.

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