Your welcome to the job Smurf... My point is that I've been posting here for a while now and one of the things I've heard over and over ad nauseam is that there is no proof that Bush lied...and here I've provided what amounts to a documentary on the facts surrounding the sale of the war in Iraq, and by extension what's being done now in regard to Iran and what happens...they change the subject...nothing less than what I expected (no hair) but funny non the less....

Of course they said I wanted to be the thread police...what else are they going to do...actually answer me?? Not...LOL

KJ

What did Bush say that wasn't said by Clinton for 8 years before Bush?

What this looks like to me is reporters trying to save face by telling the world that they were duped into believing what they reported.

In other words..."Spin...after the fact"

So much for "Investigating first...then Reporting"

My take...WMD...there's no doubt that Saddam did have and did use WMD on his own people...the Kurds.

As far as Saddam "Acquiring" Nuclear weapons, there's no doubt in my mind that he was trying to do exactly that. I'm not even going to go as far as to say he was trying to build his own...although that probably would have been the next thing on his agenda...after he acquired his first one. I'm thinking that he was trying to buy a Nuke from somebody like the Russians or one of the lesser newly formed countries that used to be the USSR. It's no secret that there are still a LOT of unacounted for warheads from the collapse of the USSR. All it would have taken is ONE warhead or weapon of that type and a group of technicians to do a "Reverse engineering" job to make his nuclear arsenal a reality.

As far as "Finding" WMD...ask yourself just how hard it would have been to ship them to someplace...like Syria(one of the most likely places they could be)...or to bury them in the desert. I could bury a lot of things on MY property and if you didn't know where to start digging...chances are you'd never find anything.

We ARE talking about a country roughly the size of California here as well.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong here too. Weren't the places of worship considered "Off Limits" when it came to viable places to search for weapons of any kind??? Food for thought...how many weapons could somebody hide in a Church basement?????

As far as the "Intel" goes...sometimes Intel is just a fragment of information that is doesn't connect to anything else...or seemingly so at the time of it being discovered. It's usually much later that the entire picture becomes clear to those in the analysis business. This is just like the events leading up to September 11,2001. The Intel WAS there. It just hadn't been connected to any sort of plot...yet.

As far as the "Naysayers" in our Senate are concerned...come on...Robert Byrd and Teddy Kennedy. It's kinda hard for any halfway intelligent person to follow an ex Klansman or the "Hero of Chappaquiddick". I call him the Hero because he saved the most important person...himself.

How these 2 keep getting elected is truly beyond me.

In addition, let us not forget that "Good ol Bubba"...Bill Clinton himself had the opportunity to do something after the World Trade Center was bombed the first time. NOPE...he took a pass on that deal entirely.

He also passed on Osama Bin Laden too. I think Bin Laden was referred to as "Too much of a political HOT POTATO"...if only we knew then what we know now. We probably did...but Clinton was trying to build up "His Legacy" and wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole.

He didn't do too much about the bombing of the USS Cole either.

He did bomb a couple of factories and kill a couple of cleaning crews trying to divert attention away from the "Monica" situation.

Oh...I almost forgot the situation in Bosnia. He did get us involved in that.

Somalia too.

Bush and the current administration may not be perfect. If anybody can tell me of a President and an administration that WAS perfect, I'll be willing to listen.

And Hillary wants to be our next President????? 8 years of "The Clintons" was enough for anybody to have to tolerate.

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You're OBVIOUSLY a part of the problem.

Watch the video and stop crying about Clinton..that was 7 years ago, get over it.

This isn't spin, this is investigative reporting...reporting what happened, how it happened, what the results were...the same kinds of things are happening now...these people are pointing to their own culpability and pointing out how political the media has become and how it's used by the administration. They are drumming up an attack on Iran now...this video is worth watching, even if it's painful for your poor Republican selves...get over your party partisanship and take a look...then tell me we were not lied to.

KJ

Wrong!!!
Bush sent troops to Somalia.....not Clinton.

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In the "Intelligence business"...sometimes, the waters get a bit cloudy and it's hard to see through the murkiness.

Not everything is "Crystal Clear" in foresight.

The government acted on the "Best Intelligence" they had at the time. Not saying it was perfect and all the facts were there, but it WAS the best available at the time.

Now, in hindsight...which is ALWAYS 20/20...

You want to call foul and say we were lied to and the media just went along for the ride???

I'll ask again, WHERE WAS THE INVESTIGATIVE REPORTING IN ALL THIS?

Not sure if you're aware of this, but intelligence gatherers and analysts operate on a "Confidence level" basis when it comes to intel. Sometimes the level is very high...sometimes it's not.

The "Smoking gun" isn't always found in the hands of the perpetrator.

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You're OBVIOUSLY a part of the problem.

Somalia happened in 1993.

Clinton sent the troops.

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You're OBVIOUSLY a part of the problem.

Operation Restore Hope

Expanded peacekeeping in Somalia began after the failure of UNOSOM I accompanied by the specter of 500,000 Somalis dead from famine by the fall of 1992 and hundreds of thousands more in danger of dying. Clan violence in Somalia interfered with international famine relief efforts, and President Bush sent American troops to protect relief workers in a new operation called Restore Hope. The US-led coalition approved by the Security Council in December 1992 had a mandate of protecting humanitarian operations and creating a secure environment for eventual political reconciliation. At the same time, it had the authority to use all necessary means, including military force. A joint and multinational operation, Restore Hope--called UNITAF (unified task force)--was a US-led, UN-sanctioned operation that included protection of humanitarian assistance and other peace-enforcement operations.


you stand corrected !

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1) Study up on this a little more. My kid who's in college laughed out loud.

2) Stop and wipe the hatedemocrat off your glasses; it's blinding you...
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Watch the video...that's what it's about...answering your question...dang.

KJ
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