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Old 12.01.2007
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CNN Debate

My opinions of the debate.

Huckabee really blew the socks off of the CNN Debate. Not only was he right on the issues and never beat around a question, but he is very charismatic also. He seemed like he was enjoying what would be a stressful environment for anyone. He never seemed to buckle and he was respectful of the other debaters.

McCain seemed angry to even be there and out of touch with current issues.

Fred, love him but, he is as charismatic as a tree stump. Its going to take some energy to get his campaign moving at all. Kinda sad, I really was hopeful for him.

Giulinui seemed very defensive and can't seem to get his head out of New York. He accomplished a long list, yes, but he should start to go on the offensive, not defensive, with the Federal experience he has also. He also really showed his weakness with Roe v. Wade and the 2nd amendment that night. Was anyone else annoyed at how rude he was of the other debaters and time limits? (Same goes for McCain on that)

Ron Paul I admit did shine as a skillful debater on the FOX debate even though I don't agree with his foreign policy ideals. But this debate I think he really crashed and burned. As wacky as I think this cat is, he really does have interesting ideals when it comes to trade, civil liberties, and spending. Unfortunately in this debate he does not sell these ideals to a Conservative primary voting public and instead concentrates EVERY answer to EVERY question and connecting it with Iraq. I would not vote for him anyways, but I think he destroyed any chance of decent numbers in the primary with this rhetoric. I did find the most interesting question of the night was asking him if he planned on running as a third party! I would bet that in a heart beat. I would not be betting on his youthful Internet base. Thats the same segment of America that is vocal as hell until the booths open, and then they are too busy to vote. Its been that way for decades. In the end, he will make this one heck of a show! Anyone else reminded of Ross Perot or is just me? LOL

Romney did well I believe in this debate. I don't think he really needed to throw the same old same old fists around. I also don't think he brought anything else to the table. He really worries me on immigration thing. Although him being Mormon is not at the root of what I look for in a candidate (being a traditional Christian is a plus however), I worry that my fellow Conservatives it will be. SO I worry about him in the General if it happens. Of all the candidates, this guy screams politician more then anyone else. Anyone else get that vibe?

Tancrideo seems like a stand up guy, but I am not sure if they are just not giving him as much air time or what. It seems I like what he says when he says it, but as soon as the debate is over, I forget that he was there. hmmmm?

Hunter was the big surprise for me. This cat rocks! He also seemed at home on the stage and was charismatic. He just told it how it is on immigration. Not scared of a question at all. Not scared to talk about his pro-life and pro-second amendment politics at all. Unfortunately, money talks, and this guy has none. What a shame.

I don't think any one of them would make an AWFUL president (except Ron Paul, his views on foreign policy are dangerous) and I think that can be bad in itself. They all have there strengths. But we must not forget we need a guy that can win in the General also. Both Hilliary and Obama are undeniable juggernauts and have far left social views. Its going to be an up hill battle with the party being so lame duck lately. Lets just be real. At least in the republican debate they debate each other, and not the guy thats not even running this time, Bush! Bush is NOT the republican party, he is ONE man in the republican party! Love him or Hate him, GET OVER HIM and debate the issues so we can move on for crying out loud.

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wc.......good review and opinion. I pretty much agree right down the line except I wouldnt be quite as kind to Ron Paul. I thought he looked and sounded like anything but a president.
I really think McCain has peaked and is on a downward trend and he seemed a little over emphatic about the waterboarding thing.........he needs to understand that the American public is not quite as worried about treatment of terrorists as he is. Anything short of beheading.
I thought Romney looked and sounded presidential. I liked his waterboarding answer.
You are right, Rudy needs to get away from New York...........the rest of the country does not like NY.
The jury is still out about Huckabee..........and while I have to chuckle that people are still making a big deal about the Mormon, not much is being said about having a preacher in the white house.
I just kinda want to like Fred and I think he would do fine especially considering the Dem alternative.
I think the bigger story is the Hillary guy intrusion..........made CNN look stupid. Dont tell me that they didnt know who he was........the guy is a well known gay because he is an outspoken retired military general working on one of Hillary's committees. And CNN said they didnt know?
Absolute lie.
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CNN knew exactly who he was, you don't fly somebody in and put him up in a hotel on your dime without knowing that. If you "Googled" this guy, the first thing to come up would be his Clinton connection.
Two other "concerned voters" they used were outed as supporters of Edwards and Obama.
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I pretty much agree right down the line except I wouldn't be quite as kind to Ron Paul. I thought he looked and sounded like anything but a president.
I agree 100%. I think the last debate he spoke a good piece even though I disagree with him on very important issues. He came off as a skillful debater. This time he was just wacky. IRAQ IRAQ IRAQ. Even to the space program. It was just silly and very nonresidential.

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I really think McCain has peaked and is on a downward trend and he seemed a little over emphatic about the water-boarding thing.........he needs to understand that the American public is not quite as worried about treatment of terrorists as he is. Anything short of beheading.
I thought Romney looked and sounded presidential. I liked his water-boarding answer.
You hit the nail on the head to exactly what I am thinking of. He seemed to be irritable the entire night, but this one just blew his top. I do not disrespect his view at all however. He knows more about this then anyone. But there has to be some way we can protect ourselves. Unfortunately, in some ways he is wrong. We do live in a world not to far off of the fantasy of 24. I really liked Romney's answer too. Thats what I want in a President. I want the President to consult consult consult before jumping into any major choice or policy.

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The jury is still out about Huckabee..........and while I have to chuckle that people are still making a big deal about the Mormon, not much is being said about having a preacher in the white house.
HAHA, thats a good point. But really.... I really think this is a non-issue. I do, in human nature, like to be able to reflect with a person that I am voting for. I just think ones religion is a non-issue politically. It may add some positive stereotype that a Christian is a well rounded compassionate person, but I don't think it really has any true place in an election.

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I think the bigger story is the Hillary guy intrusion..........made CNN look stupid. Don't tell me that they didn't know who he was........the guy is a well known gay because he is an outspoken retired military general working on one of Hillary's committees. And CNN said they didn't know? Absolute lie.
I was surprised by this story also. Kinda funny really. The best part of it in my mind is I think it had a good response. Like I said, Republicans don't run from a question like a scared cat. I think they were looking for some rhetoric from some conspiracy driven republican ideal or were looking for someone to buckle. Instead they capitalized on the subject. I don't think it really mattered if he was planted. Its CNN for pete's sake. Out of 5000 entries, they could sift through them all and pick whatever they wanted. It would be just like normal! But we all knew that as soon as we clicked that channel on. It was very interesting just the same.
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They didn't allow the people to vote this time. I wonder why.

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They didn't allow the people to vote this time. I wonder why.

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Yes they did. What are you talking about. And of course, with Ron Paul's Internet base support group, he won there poll. Its not hard to imagine. What strikes me is the second place. After Paul, it was all Huckabee. I guess others saw him awaken also. Every other candidate on most of the issues barely was noticeable.
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Yes they did. What are you talking about. And of course, with Ron Paul's Internet base support group, he won there poll. Its not hard to imagine. What strikes me is the second place. After Paul, it was all Huckabee. I guess others saw him awaken also. Every other candidate on most of the issues barely was noticeable.
Thats strange. I watched CNN for about 10 minutes after the debates, and didn't see anything about a vote. I guess I should have watched a little longer. But, Watching CNN, isn't something I look forward to.

I just found it. And I'm wondering who I should vote for........hhhhmmmmmmm
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I'm i the only one who finds it very strange that Ron Paul can win all these Internet polls and support. But he can't even get above the margin of error in most national polls ?

hmmm...yes very strange indeed.
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I'm i the only one who finds it very strange that Ron Paul can win all these Internet polls and support. But he can't even get above the margin of error in most national polls ?

hmmm...yes very strange indeed.
Lets just say for instance, that you own the Smurf News Network. And Rudy, Romney, and the RNC, gives you million of $$$ to run ads. And Ron Paul doesn't. Who would you promote in your own "Special" way?
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Thats strange. I watched CNN for about 10 minutes after the debates, and didn't see anything about a vote. I guess I should have watched a little longer. But, Watching CNN, isn't something I look forward to.

I just found it. And I'm wondering who I should vote for........hhhhmmmmmmm
OH, thats becouse I think it was online only. CHeck there website out.
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