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"......that bhotto chick got killed"

Now that is class. Seems like I might have heard that name a time or 100 in the last few years. Oh , that's right. She just has or had about 40% of the Pakistani voters supporting her candidacy. Almost had her confused with that Dixie Chick.
Thats my point. Thanks for making it for me. But the bhotto chick, may have been a great person, who held together the democracy of Pakistan. But, until today, most people didn't know her from anyone else. And the other candidates are gonna make a big deal out of her, and Pakistan, while Ron Paul is saying, "Hey, thats their business, and we don't need our soldiers dying over this incident"
And Iowa voters, and many others will agree.
You guys keep up with foreign countries alot more than most people. But you can't blame them that don't. But they have more important things to do than worry about pakistan or any other stan.
Thats just the way it is. I mean seriously. How many people actually know who their congressmen are? Mush less that lady.
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there is another guy running named John Edwards.
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there is another guy running named John Edwards.
I thought about support John Edwards. As a matter of fact, I supported him in 04. Until Kerry got selected. (first clue the DNC had lost their minds). But now, he won't commit to bringing the troops home, and wants to start a National Health Care thingy. And he is soft on immigration. Besides, I don't like lawyers.
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Edwards Fights to the Finish



DES MOINES -- For the final days in the Iowa contest, John Edwards has shed his blue jeans and open-collar shirt and put on a suit and tie -- and a pair of brass knuckles
Often the forgotten man in Iowa's three-way Democratic battle, Edwards is on the move. Independent analysts see his support firming up. Advisers to both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama believe he might win the caucuses on Thursday -- although their views should be discounted because both Clinton and Obama would rather see Edwards win if they can't.
Four years ago, Edwards closed out Iowa in a rush. Had the campaign gone on a few more days, he might have won the caucuses. His second-place finish was almost as surprising as John Kerry's victory.
Nobody in the race here understands the rhythms of campaigns any better than Edwards and nobody is more ruthlessly focused on closing the deal than the former trial lawyer and senator. This time he's trying to make it all the way, knowing that he cannot afford to lose here on Thursday night.

But it is his message that is most remarkable. No thought here of finishing on a sunny and positive note, as he did four years ago. His "America Rising" theme is not a variation of "Morning in America."
It is a call to arms that is raw and angry, populist and pugnacious. It is a message that is as exhausting and is it confrontational. It is a message makes Al Gore's "people versus the powerful" seem tame and timid in comparison.

Edwards has rolled out anecdotes he never used in the past to make it all the more personal. They conjure up images that hardly square with his slight frame and good looks. He was, as he now explains, a brawler as a kid, taking on bullies the way he later took on corporations and insurance companies as a trail lawyer.
"Like many of you, I had to fight to survive," he told an audience of nearly a thousand people on Saturday night. "I mean really. Literally."
He describes the southern mill town where he grew up as a tough little place and tells the story of getting into a fight one day with an older boy. "Got my butt kicked," he says. When he got home, his father offered a stern lesson in life.

The enemy he sees is corporate America and corporate greed. His message seeks not to unite America but to finish what he describes as "an epic struggle" against forces that are, literally, killing America -- destroying jobs, holding down wages, putting ordinary Americans out of work or denying them medical care.
"You need somebody in the arena who will never back down," he says.
His language is over the top. He casts the challenges facing America in terms of morality and immorality. Speaking of tax policies that have encouraged companies to send jobs overseas, he says, "This is insanity -- I mean complete insanity."

It is hypocritical, they say, coming from someone who grew rich in the courtrooms and who now lives in an enormous house in North Carolina. It is phony, they argue, to condemn big money and become the beneficiary of an independent expenditure campaign run by his former campaign manager.
None of this bothers Edwards. He knows what the critics say but he couldn't care less. He doesn't believe those attacks have hurt him. He believes he is connecting with the anger and unrest that many ordinary Americans feel about the state of the country and especially the way Washington works. He promises not to fix the system but to blow it up.
That message is strong brew and not for everyone, but it has found a following. Edwards is counting on enough Iowans -- those in the small towns and rural areas especially -- to buy into it to put him over the top on caucus night.
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Thats my point. Thanks for making it for me. But the bhotto chick, may have been a great person, who held together the democracy of Pakistan. But, until today, most people didn't know her from anyone else. And the other candidates are gonna make a big deal out of her, and Pakistan, while Ron Paul is saying, "Hey, thats their business, and we don't need our soldiers dying over this incident"
And Iowa voters, and many others will agree.
You guys keep up with foreign countries alot more than most people. But you can't blame them that don't. But they have more important things to do than worry about pakistan or any other stan.
Thats just the way it is. I mean seriously. How many people actually know who their congressmen are? Mush less that lady.
If there is one thing you guys might want to learn more about, it's who Benazir Bhutto was, what she represented to Pakistani politics, why she died, and what the intentions of Pakistan's current ruler are.
Remember, Pakistan possesses nuclear (nucular) armament and is at odds with her neighbor India, which as you all know is also a nuclear (nucular) power.
I'm willing to go on record with the prediction that the world's next use of atomic weaponry will occur between those two countries.
A little more than two months ago Wiseone posted that he was more or less scared sh**less about the onset of WWIII due to Iran's alleged possession of a nuclear (nucular) bomb. THIS SITUATION IS MUCH MORE DANGEROUS.
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Rex you may be right. that area has been volatile for decades. Wiseone could also be correct. Things have a way of ballooning out of control with these 3rd world countries. I think the Paks and Indians have quite a few behind the scenes talks going on at all times. Let's hope so.
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Iran doesn't have a nuke.
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Iran doesn't have a nuke.
Nobody said Iran had a nuke. If you can remember as far back as two or three months, (I know, that's gonna be hard for you) the US government sure thought they did, and that's what had Wiseone worried.
Please get your head out of Ron Paul's butt and try to pay attention.
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If there is one thing you guys might want to learn more about, it's who Benazir Bhutto was, what she represented to Pakistani politics, why she died, and what the intentions of Pakistan's current ruler are.
Remember, Pakistan possesses nuclear (nucular) armament and is at odds with her neighbor India, which as you all know is also a nuclear (nucular) power.
I'm willing to go on record with the prediction that the world's next use of atomic weaponry will occur between those two countries.
A little more than two months ago Wiseone posted that he was more or less scared sh**less about the onset of WWIII due to Iran's alleged possession of a nuclear (nucular) bomb. THIS SITUATION IS MUCH MORE DANGEROUS.
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There is nothing dangerous to us. Unless Bush wants to stick our noses in their business. Who cares who she was. WHo cares about anything in the middle east except out soldiers and their safe return home.
Mind our business.
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yep..thats why the Muslims hate us. We interfer where we have no right to.
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