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A mosaic of soldiers who have died in Iraq:




lest we never forget the ones who payed the price for a unnecessary war...or the one who sent them.
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Good job. Now get to work on the Viet Nam one.
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lest we never forget the ones who payed the price for a unnecessary war...or the one who sent them.
Don't forget that MOST of them enlisted after 9-11 and MANY MORE of them either enlisted OR re-enlisted after we invaded IRAQ.
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lest we never forget the ones who payed the price for a unnecessary war...or the one who sent them.
Don't forgetthat congess and the liberals voted to send them to iraq. Secondly not one of my brothers or sisters in arms joined the service without realizing they could die, and not any where was a gun put to their head and they were forced to join or stay in the service
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Yeah they voted for it, and they will pay the price in the end, but you can't shift responsibility for these deaths from Bush/Cheney and their phony war.
They lied and these people died. Thousands of others have been injured...and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's have paid a terrible price.

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Yeah they voted for it, and they will pay the price in the end, but you can't shift responsibility for these deaths from Bush/Cheney and their phony war.
They lied and these people died. Thousands of others have been injured...and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's have paid a terrible price.

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Phony War? as in make believe?
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You know what I mean by phony..all the various bogus 'reasons' we attacked and occupied another country...yes, phony...it about nothing but corporate greed, empire building. Now we get to police a civil war...and millions of Iraqi's are living miserable lives camped out in other countries. Bush is full of crap.

This is a letter an American Soldier left to a friend in the event of his death in Iraq..he asked that it be published on his blog..the link is below but I'm going to take a small portion and post it here...these are his words not mine.

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I write this in part, admittedly, because I would like to think that there's at least a little something out there to remember me by. Granted, this site will eventually vanish, being ephemeral in a very real sense of the word, but at least for a time it can serve as a tiny record of my contributions to the world.

But on a larger scale, for those who knew me well enough to be saddened by my death, especially for those who haven't known anyone else lost to this war, perhaps my death can serve as a small reminder of the costs of war. Regardless of the merits of this war, or of any war, I think that many of us in America have forgotten that war means death and suffering in wholesale lots. A decision that for most of us in America was academic, whether or not to go to war in Iraq, had very real consequences for hundreds of thousands of people. Yet I was as guilty as anyone of minimizing those very real consequences in lieu of a cold discussion of theoretical merits of war and peace. Now I'm facing some very real consequences of that decision; who says life doesn't have a sense of humor? But for those who knew me and feel this pain, I think it's a good thing to realize that this pain has been felt by thousands and thousands (probably millions, actually) of other people all over the world. That is part of the cost of war, any war, no matter how justified.

If everyone who feels this pain keeps that in mind the next time we have to decide whether or not war is a good idea, perhaps it will help us to make a more informed decision. Because it is pretty clear that the average American would not have supported the Iraq War had they known the costs going in. I am far too cynical to believe that any future debate over war will be any less vitriolic or emotional, but perhaps a few more people will realize just what those costs can be the next time.

This may be a contradiction of my above call to keep politics out of my death, but I hope not. Sometimes going to war is the right idea. I think we've drawn that line too far in the direction of war rather than peace, but I'm a soldier and I know that sometimes you have to fight if you're to hold onto what you hold dear. But in making that decision, I believe we understate the costs of war; when we make the decision to fight, we make the decision to kill, and that means lives and families destroyed. Mine now falls into that category; the next time the question of war or peace comes up, if you knew me at least you can understand a bit more just what it is you're deciding to do, and whether or not those costs are worth it.
~snip~

His letter is beautiful..full of honesty and clear vision. These are some of the people who have paid the ultimate price for our ME policy.


KJ

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Phony War? as in make believe?
NO, as in phony reasons for going. As in there were no reasons to send those soldiers to their deaths. There were no reasons to leave their kids, husbands and wives, mothers and fathers, without their presence on this earth.
There were no reason for them to die.

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