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Here you go, where does the 'Best Country in the World' land in this study of 19 Industrialized countries on health care for it's citizens...um lets see...oh...dang....we're dead LAST...

France is healthcare leader, US comes dead last: study

Tue Jan 8, 4:45 PM ET WASHINGTON (AFP) - France is tops, and the United States dead last, in providing timely and effective healthcare to its citizens, according to a survey Tuesday of preventable deaths in 19 industrialized countries.

The study by the Commonwealth Fund and published in the January/February issue of the journal Health Affairs measured developed countries' effectiveness at providing timely and effective healthcare.

The study, entitled "Measuring the Health of Nations: Updating an Earlier Analysis," was written by researchers from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. It looked at death rates in subjects younger than 75 that could have been prevented by timely and effective medical care.

The researchers found that while most countries surveyed saw preventable deaths decline by an average of 16 percent, the United States saw only a four percent dip.

The non-profit Commonwealth Fund, which financed the study, expressed alarm at the findings.

"It is startling to see the US falling even farther behind on this crucial indicator of health system performance," said Commonwealth Fund Senior Vice President Cathy Schoen, who noted that "other countries are reducing these preventable deaths more rapidly, yet spending far less."

The 19 countries, in order of best to worst, were: France, Japan, Australia, Austria, Canada, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, the United Kingdom and the United States.

Some countries showed dramatic improvement in the periods studied -- 1997 and 1998 and again between 2002 and 2003 -- outpacing the United States, which showed only slight improvement.

While the United States ranked 15th of 19 between 1997-98, by 2002-03 it had fallen to last place.

"It is notable that all countries have improved substantially except the US," said Ellen Nolte, lead author of the study.

Had the United States performed as well as any of the top three industrialized countries, there would have been 101,000 fewer deaths per year, the researchers said.
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And gee...LOOK...Canada is number 4...now about that!!!

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But they didn't take into account the 40 million illegals that have come here in the last 15 years. And they are associated with Harvard so you know they are Bash America First crowd.
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40 million in 15 yrs?????Not by a long shot. Try since the 80's. reagan all but let them move into the White House. Also not sure about the 40 million. could be but sounds high.
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40 million in 15 yrs?????Not by a long shot. Try since the 80's. reagan all but let them move into the White House. Also not sure about the 40 million. could be but sounds high.
I don't believe the Gov numbers of 11 million at all. I have watched the pop of DFW area grow from 1.9 million to 7 mil since 1990. And it has been primarily Hispanic. Dls Ftw and Arlingon are all primarily Hispanic now. School systems are 50 to 80% Hispanic. Neighborhood after neighborhood have turned into Hisp ghettos. From none to six Hisp TV stations. You can believe the gov stats of 11 million if you want. I feel sure the true # is 30 to 50 mil. Pres Reagan screwed up. None have learned since then. In fact I feel Bush and Clinton are complicit in helping co's get them here.
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I think that America may have the best Doctors. But not the best health care. As a matter of fact. I'm not sure about the best doctor either. (If you've ever been to ETMC in Athens, you'd know what I mean)
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The question is, where would you rather be hospitalized, France or U.S.?

U.S.
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Memorial Sloan Kettering

France?? not so much.
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I want America to live up to it's promise. I want Americans to have access to excellent, affordable health care. We are dead last...Canada is fourth...get it?

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Who made that promise?
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it is very easy for the unaericans to bash the real americans every other conrty wants to make us look bad because they know that there contry cant even try to compare with how well we have it here
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Who made that promise?
Exactly. where is health care a guaranteed right?
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