Well.....
Clark Lake (and the Irish Hills) isn't all that bad.

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there has been talk on some other sites that the heading should be changed to be more politically correct but I pointed out that it really isn't racist except the last line and someone else pointed out that any other heading would diminish the substance of the post, besides I am an owner/operator and white and happen to agree with about everything that the article said

I wonder if angry white man can explain what George Bush has accomplished for he and his family over the last 8 years?

As for the second part, I believe talk radio is instilling this into their listeners heads. The GOP thinks McCain can beat Hillary, but they're not so sure about Obama.

For one; my taxes are about 40% lower today than what they were in 1998/1999. That hasn't been "instilled" by talk radio, but is evidenced on my tax return every year since.
If Hillary or Obama is elected, you can guarantee that taxes WILL go up to HIGHER rates than they were pre-Bush years, in order to pay for everything they are proposing.....plus all the normal BS "ear-marks" we are paying for today.

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Your taxes may be lower today, but earlier this month, Bush introduced his 3.1 trillion dollar budget...with more than $400 billion in deficit spending. Thats $400 billion more that we have to borrow just to cover the budget IF he can stick to it.

Oh, and just to remind you...that $400 billion will not include the $110 billion or so that he will "borrow" from treasury securities, nor will it include the $80 billion or so taken from Social Security.

Just my opinion, but I don't consider mortgaging my kids, and grandkids, future a good move for me and my family. What do you think?

As for tax increases, well...I don't believe they'll go to cover "everything they are proposing", or even earmarks. If I had to take a shot in the dark, Id say that tax revenue would go towards the interest on our $9.3 trillion debt.

So besides putting our kids future in the kamode, what has Bush done for us and our families over the last 8 years?

My Dad's (may he rest in peace) first man to man talk he layed on me as I was moving away from home for work was pretty well verbatim to this post.He said "The rarest ,most persecuted animal on this planet is a white heterosexual male that pays his taxes,takes care of his family,obeys the law no matter how ignorant it may be,has never been to jail,is not a dopehead or a drunk ,takes care of his own kids and protects them to the highest level of violence that might be required,is kind to anything weaker than himself including his animals" then he said"Try to be one of those animals boy"...The Old man wasn't a rascist,viewed political correctness as a commie left wing infiltration and he believed what the bible taught about homosexuals,cheaters and liars .He raised us on deer,elk,antelope and prairie chickens and took a VERY dim view of anti hunters and tree hugger hippie types whom he called a "wart on the #** of society.He hated any lobby group,pacs and especially banks and insurance companies who he felt stole us blind and actually ran the country. We owned a multitude of guns and participated in pre C.A.S. and longshot type events and were not members of the NRA because of their right wing propaganda on non gun related issues and he always said that the least qualified to lead (especially on the local level) were always the ones who wanted to and that anybody who had the sense to lead had enough sense to stay away from the headaches and futility of it all.It seems to me that he was right on all counts and I miss him and his generation badly.The nation is a worse place without these characters who truly built it with their sweat and not their mouths or "good " intentions.

And BTW ,He was a staunch moderate dem that ACTUALLY SERVED overseas during TWO conflict eras and put his money where his mouth was.

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If you want to know the truth, NO president in the past 40 years has NOT "mortgaged" the future of "our chillens".
The REAL problem is; however is the THIEVES that sit in Congress and the Senate who sneak $B into all laws and legislation they write. You can also thank the President for NOT VETOing these confiscatory Laws.
But if you think Obaba (or Hillary) will make any changes; Obubba has introduced an $800B "Anti-Poverty" bill and proposes to give the money to the UN to disburse to "poverty laden countries", (Ya like the UN is a Model of efficiency and honesty), not to mention he ALSO proposes some type of Universal Health Care; Drivers Licenses and LEGAL status for ILLEGALS, In-State Tuition for ILLEGALS as well as promising to sign on to the "GoreBULL Warning ####, which does nothing except move money from the hands of those able to CREATE wealth to those who will not.

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Its clear that you're coming in off the cuff, roadkill...and I applaud that. You sit for hours and hours a day, listening to right wing talkers that sucker you into voting against your own interest year after year. This is evidenced by the blind support of GWB all the way across these threads, despite this administration having done nothing for the middle class in the last 8 years. Nothing. You've lost more personal wealth in the last 8 years than you ever have in your life, and you know it...yet you continue to play cheerleader for this dangerous administration.

I look across this forum and something becomes abundantly clear. Most posters don't really know which issues immediately important to them and their family. Discussions about "wedge" issues fill page after page while topics like healthcare, the economy, and the burgeoning debt get very little attention. Why is that? Because the latter issues require research while "wedge" issues, by design, force you to vote with emotion. Sure...the GOP will let you keep God and guns, but while you're oiling down ol' betsy, they're funneling money straight out of your bank account, and shoving it straight into the pockets of the people who need it the least.

Taking an example from a friend of mine, I'll prove this to you...

The economic stimulus package? $140 billion, right? Multiply that $300 rebate check by 80 million taxpayers, and see what you come up with. Thats $24 billion, correct? Wheres the other $116 billion going?

I can tell you where its going anytime you like, but it would benefit America more if you looked it up for yourself.

The REAL problem? I don't think so. The REAL problem is that, like most truckin' conservatives, you really believe this IS the REAL problem.

I believe the REAL problem is paying the interest on a $9.3 trillion dollar debt while constantly borrowing more each year to fund budget deficits.

Next year, MORE of our tax dollars will go toward interest on the debt, rather than current expenses.

Interest rates will continue to rise, because the amount we borrow directly affects these rates.

In coming years, rising interest rates will continue to increase budget deficits, and increased deficits increase the debt.

Increased debt means.......higher interest payments, and higher interest payments mean STILL higher deficits.

As this dangerous cycle continues, interest rates will FURTHER rise.

See how our future worsens exponentially if we continue on with deficit spending? Do you STILL think that earmarks are the REAL problem?

You really need to bone up on the facts of Stimulus package before posting. Your numbers are all wrong.