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Yea, that's what they are saying... [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. ? So, I guess he is pissed. Problems is, they did that in Ecuador, NOT Venezuela, so WHY would Chavez do what he is doing then? Does he think he is some type of "Messiah" for Ecuador? Is he that nuts?
I dunno who or what he thinks he is. But he sure sounds dangerous to me
Someone with those political leanings, and the money avaliable to them. Can bring a whole world of grief to everyone.
But, I just have trouble believing that the masses would follow this guy. Afterall, the country was a very nice and friendly country. Prior to Senor NutCase taking over the reigns.
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I dunno who or what he thinks he is. But he sure sounds dangerous to me
Someone with those political leanings, and the money avaliable to them. Can bring a whole world of grief to everyone.
But, I just have trouble believing that the masses would follow this guy. Afterall, the country was a very nice and friendly country. Prior to Senor NutCase taking over the reigns.
Ya, and the liberals are still infatuated with this wacko, as well as Castro and AhmaDIMawhackajob.
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Only bright spot in this is that Chavez is not popular with about half the population of his country. I f they decide not to back a war he could be in trouble. we can only hope.
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This past weekend, Colombia invaded Ecuador, killed a guerrilla chief in the jungle, opened his laptop – and what did the Colombians find? A message to Hugo Chavez that he sent the FARC guerrillas $300 million – which they’re using to obtain uranium to make a dirty bomb! That’s what George Bush tells us. And he got that from his buddy, the strange right-wing President of Colombia, Alvaro Uribe.
So: After the fact, Colombia justifies its attempt to provoke a border war as a way to stop the threat of WMDs! Uh, where have we heard that before? The US press snorted up this line about Chavez’ $300 million to “terrorists” quicker than the young Bush inhaling Colombia’s powdered export.
What the US press did not do is look at the evidence, the email in the magic laptop. (Presumably, the FARC leader’s last words were, “Listen, my password is ….”) I read them. (You can read them [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. ) While you can read it all in español, here is, in translation, the one and only mention of the alleged $300 million from Chavez:
“… With relation to the 300, which from now on we will call “dossier,” efforts are now going forward at the instructions of the boss to the cojo [slang term for ‘cripple’], which I will explain in a separate note. Let’s call the boss Ángel, and the cripple Ernesto.”
Got that? Where is Hugo? Where’s 300 million? And 300 what? Indeed, in context, the note is all about the hostage exchange with the FARC that Chavez was working on at the time (December 23, 2007) at the request of the Colombian government. Indeed, the entire remainder of the email is all about the mechanism of the hostage exchange. Here’s the next line:
“To receive the three freed ones, Chavez proposes three options: Plan A. Do it to via of a ‘humanitarian caravan’; one that will involve Venezuela, France, the Vatican[?], Switzerland, European Union, democrats [civil society], Argentina, Red Cross, etc.”
As to the 300, I must note that the FARC’s previous prisoner exchange involved 300 prisoners. Is that what the ‘300’ refers to? ¿Quien sabe? Unlike Uribe, Bush and the US press, I won’t guess or make up a phastasmogoric story about Chavez mailing checks to the jungle.
To bolster their case, the Colombians claim, with no evidence whatsoever, that the mysterious “Angel” is the code name for Chavez. But in the memo, Chavez goes by the code name … Chavez.
Well, so what? This is what . . . .
Colombia’s invasion into Ecuador is a rank violation of international law, condemned by every single Latin member of the Organization of American States. But George Bush just loved it. He called Uribe to back Colombia, against, “the continuing assault by narco-terrorists as well as the provocative maneuvers by the regime in Venezuela.”
Well, our President may have gotten the facts ###-backward, but Bush knows what he’s doing: shoring up his last, faltering ally in South America, Uribe, a desperate man in deep political trouble.
Uribe claims he is going to bring charges against Chavez before the International Criminal Court. If Uribe goes there in person, I suggest he take a toothbrush: it was just discovered that right-wing death squads held murder-planning sessions at Uribe’s ranch. Uribe’s associates have been called before the nation’s Supreme Court and may face prison. In other words, it’s a good time for a desperate Uribe to use that old politico’s wheeze, the threat of war, to drown out accusations of his own criminality. Furthermore, Uribe’s attack literally killed negotiations with FARC by killing FARC’s negotiator, Raul Reyes. Reyes was in talks with both Ecuador and Chavez about another prisoner exchange. Uribe authorized the negotiations. However, Uribe knew, should those talks have succeeded in obtaining the release of those kidnapped by the FARC, credit would have been heaped on Ecuador and Chavez, and discredit heaped on Uribe.
Luckily for a hemisphere on the verge of flames, the President of Ecuador, Raphael Correa, is one of the most level-headed, thoughtful men I’ve ever encountered. Correa is now flying from Quito to Brazilia to Caracas to keep the region from blowing sky high. While moving troops to his border – no chief of state can permit foreign tanks on their sovereign soil – Correa also refuses sanctuary to the FARC . Indeed, Ecuador has routed out 47 FARC bases, a better track record than Colombia’s own, corrupt military.
For his cool, peaceable handling of the crisis, I will forgive Correa for apologizing for his calling Bush, “a dimwitted President who has done great damage to his country and the world.”
So Columbia invades another country in violation of International Law.... and THEN.... magically finds a laptop with a email in it that allegedly claims Chavez is sending FARC cash??
Right.
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There is no way we can. First off, there would HAVE to be a draft to force those who wouldn't serve their country to do so...that would not be popular with today's spoiled-brat American kids! Chavez COULD use this as an excuse to get a war started and drag us in to help take the heat off Iran. Sheesh, what a darn mess this world is in!
You seem to be confusing serving "OUR" country, with being the world police. Let them settle their own problems.
There is no way we can. First off, there would HAVE to be a draft to force those who wouldn't serve their country to do so...that would not be popular with today's spoiled-brat American kids! Chavez COULD use this as an excuse to get a war started and drag us in to help take the heat off Iran. Sheesh, what a darn mess this world is in!
Secondly we do not have the equipment to support sending troops don there, Trucks, helo's ammunition, anything so I thiink the best thing to do is to find someone to take the nut job out.
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You seem to be confusing serving "OUR" country, with being the world police. Let them settle their own problems.
Oh, you mean like "going into Darfur" like the Democrats want to do?
Or how about bombing Pakistan?
Show a little intellectual honesty.
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So Columbia invades another country in violation of International Law.... and THEN.... magically finds a laptop with a email in it that allegedly claims Chavez is sending FARC cash??
Right.
damn it dude...stop using FACTS. If I didn't hear it on FOX News then I don't bite....lmao
Oh, you mean like "going into Darfur" like the Democrats want to do?
Or how about bombing Pakistan?
Show a little intellectual honesty.
I don't give a krap about the middle east, let them bomb each other into obilvion. At least that would make the PUBS look consistent instead of the way they are.
I don't give a krap about the middle east, let them bomb each other into obilvion. At least that would make the PUBS look consistent instead of the way they are.
Oh I agree, but the problem is, that the Democrats want to pull out of Iraq, because it is in the "middle of a civil war", and then INVADE Darfur to stop THEIR civil war. Can we have a little consistency, please?
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03.03.2008
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